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Old January 13th 07, 12:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Christopher Campbell @hotmail.com" christophercampbelldeletethis wrote
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Welcome to World War III.


Quit spouting the terrorist line, Larry, or tell us how to fight a war
without killing civilians.


The idea of the Ethiopians pushing AQ to the sea, telling them to fight or
die and then sitting back as the gunships annihilated them must cause guys
like Patton and Alexander to rattle in their coffins, but in light of the
fact that the AQ targets weren't even apparently in the region...

It kinda makes me wonder who Ethiopa and the Somali government conned us
into killing for them.

-c


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Old January 13th 07, 02:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message
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Remember -- MLK and Ghandi were dealing with adversaries who operated
from a basically civilized point of view. AQ does not -- they only want
dominance and to kill "infidels."


Islam does teach to not make friends with infidels, but it does not teach to
kill infidels. It teaches to kill enemies of Islam.

Danny Deger

P.S. Not Muslim. I am Methodist but have read the Koran.


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Old January 13th 07, 03:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 20:29:41 -0600, in
, Danny Deger wrote:
Islam does teach to not make friends with infidels, but it does not
teach to kill infidels. It teaches to kill enemies of Islam.


So, all it takes is one camel ****in' Bedoin religious leader to declare
that infidels are enemies of Islam and it's open season on us... Fair
enough as long as we can declare open season on them... Perhaps we can
start out with nuking Mecca during Ramadan... That should be good for
about 2 million of them... Unfortunately, there's probably another 1.6
billion of them that would need to be eliminated in order to remove
that blight from our planet... Of course, the Texas solutions can be
basically summed up this way:

"I've got a truck and a chain -- I think we can find a road with your name
on it"

Hmmm... A quick search of StreetAtlas didn't come up with any streets with
Mohammed in their names... Damn, we might have a problem with this one...
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Old January 13th 07, 05:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Grumman-581" wrote in message
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On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 20:29:41 -0600, in
, Danny Deger wrote:
Islam does teach to not make friends with infidels, but it does not
teach to kill infidels. It teaches to kill enemies of Islam.


So, all it takes is one camel ****in' Bedoin religious leader to declare
that infidels are enemies of Islam and it's open season on us... Fair
enough as long as we can declare open season on them... Perhaps we can
start out with nuking Mecca during Ramadan...


Whoa up there cowboy...

Wrong Moslem holy festival. They aren't in Mecca for Ramadan, they're there
during the Hajj.

Jay B
(Resident, Tehran, Iran, 1976-77)


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Old January 13th 07, 06:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:29:41 -0800, Danny Deger wrote
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"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message
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Remember -- MLK and Ghandi were dealing with adversaries who operated
from a basically civilized point of view. AQ does not -- they only want
dominance and to kill "infidels."


Islam does teach to not make friends with infidels, but it does not teach to
kill infidels. It teaches to kill enemies of Islam.

Danny Deger

P.S. Not Muslim. I am Methodist but have read the Koran.



Like those "peaceful" Muslims who rioted when Pope Benedict mentioned the
violence of their history? They demanded his head, burned churches, and
threatened to kill people until the Pope acknowledged that they were
"peaceful." The same with the Mohammed cartoons. Muslims were so incensed at
being told that they were not peaceful that violent riots swept the whole
world for weeks. That kind of "peaceful?" Somebody in the Islamic world maybe
needs to get a dictionary and find out what "peaceful" means.

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Old January 13th 07, 06:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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("C J Campbell" wrote)
Like those "peaceful" Muslims who rioted when Pope Benedict mentioned the
violence of their history? They demanded his head, burned churches, and
threatened to kill people until the Pope acknowledged that they were
"peaceful."



"Threatened" to kill people?

Threatened???


Montblack


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Old January 13th 07, 07:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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("Richard Riley" wrote)
So - Israel is attacked by Arafat and his groups. Israeli children
are killed. Israel can forgive Arafat for killing Israeli children.

But in the fight Israel also kills Arabs, and their children. They
have to, in order to survive. They don't want to, but they are given
no choice.

They cannot forgive the man (or men) who forced them to kill Arab
children.

It's not intended as a justification for further violence against
Arabs. In fact, it assumes that in some future time the violence will
have ended, and THEN the question of forgiveness can be addressed.



I'll take it from here, Richard.

O'Brien:
"It's not you I hate, Cardassian - I hate what I became because of you."

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/vie...ode/68478.html
Star Trek: The Next Generation
The Wounded
Stardate 44429.6
Season 4, Episode: 12


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Old January 13th 07, 08:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:37:08 -0700, in
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Whoa up there cowboy...

Wrong Moslem holy festival. They aren't in Mecca for Ramadan, they're there
during the Hajj.


Damn, nearly wasted a nuke... Thanks for the correction...
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Old January 13th 07, 02:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Like those "peaceful" Muslims who rioted when Pope Benedict mentioned the
violence of their history? They demanded his head, burned churches, and
threatened to kill people until the Pope acknowledged that they were
"peaceful." The same with the Mohammed cartoons. Muslims were so incensed at
being told that they were not peaceful that violent riots swept the whole
world for weeks. That kind of "peaceful?" Somebody in the Islamic world maybe
needs to get a dictionary and find out what "peaceful" means.


This type of "large group" irrational behavior is not uncommon, even in
our country.

Look at the "race riots" in the 1960s. Black people were so incensed
by their mistreatment that they....burned their own neighborhoods and
businesses to the ground.

Logical? Nope.

Worse, this set of actions set back race relations for at least another
generation or two -- not their intended result, I'm sure.

"Group-think" is the scariest of all human interactions.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old January 13th 07, 02:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Danny Deger wrote:
"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message
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Remember -- MLK and Ghandi were dealing with adversaries who operated
from a basically civilized point of view. AQ does not -- they only want
dominance and to kill "infidels."



Islam does teach to not make friends with infidels, but it does not teach to
kill infidels. It teaches to kill enemies of Islam.


When you define everyone who isn't Muslim as an enemy of Islam, however,
you can justify pretty much killing everyone.

Matt
 




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