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Old January 13th 07, 06:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
C J Campbell[_1_]
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On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:29:41 -0800, Danny Deger wrote
(in article ):


"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message
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Remember -- MLK and Ghandi were dealing with adversaries who operated
from a basically civilized point of view. AQ does not -- they only want
dominance and to kill "infidels."


Islam does teach to not make friends with infidels, but it does not teach to
kill infidels. It teaches to kill enemies of Islam.

Danny Deger

P.S. Not Muslim. I am Methodist but have read the Koran.



Like those "peaceful" Muslims who rioted when Pope Benedict mentioned the
violence of their history? They demanded his head, burned churches, and
threatened to kill people until the Pope acknowledged that they were
"peaceful." The same with the Mohammed cartoons. Muslims were so incensed at
being told that they were not peaceful that violent riots swept the whole
world for weeks. That kind of "peaceful?" Somebody in the Islamic world maybe
needs to get a dictionary and find out what "peaceful" means.

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Old January 13th 07, 06:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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("C J Campbell" wrote)
Like those "peaceful" Muslims who rioted when Pope Benedict mentioned the
violence of their history? They demanded his head, burned churches, and
threatened to kill people until the Pope acknowledged that they were
"peaceful."



"Threatened" to kill people?

Threatened???


Montblack


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Old January 13th 07, 02:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Like those "peaceful" Muslims who rioted when Pope Benedict mentioned the
violence of their history? They demanded his head, burned churches, and
threatened to kill people until the Pope acknowledged that they were
"peaceful." The same with the Mohammed cartoons. Muslims were so incensed at
being told that they were not peaceful that violent riots swept the whole
world for weeks. That kind of "peaceful?" Somebody in the Islamic world maybe
needs to get a dictionary and find out what "peaceful" means.


This type of "large group" irrational behavior is not uncommon, even in
our country.

Look at the "race riots" in the 1960s. Black people were so incensed
by their mistreatment that they....burned their own neighborhoods and
businesses to the ground.

Logical? Nope.

Worse, this set of actions set back race relations for at least another
generation or two -- not their intended result, I'm sure.

"Group-think" is the scariest of all human interactions.
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Old January 13th 07, 03:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Group-think" is the scariest of all human interactions.

And religion is the scariest of all group-think.

Jose
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Old January 13th 07, 05:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 07:36:07 -0800, Jose wrote
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"Group-think" is the scariest of all human interactions.


And religion is the scariest of all group-think.


Nonsense. Even the Moslems haven't killed as many people as Stalin or Pol
Pot, and those guys were atheists. When atheists start talking about teaching
your children your religious values is "child abuse," that people who believe
in God should not be allowed to vote or assemble or hold office, that people
who have "irrational beliefs" should be locked up on reservations or forcibly
sterilized, then you realize that it is not a problem of religion, but that
there is some innate desire in men to tell you what to believe, forcibly if
necessary.

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Old January 13th 07, 05:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
e.com...
Nonsense. Even the Moslems haven't killed as many people as Stalin or Pol
Pot, and those guys were atheists. When atheists start talking about teaching
your children your religious values is "child abuse," that people who believe
in God ...


Wow! This conversation has wandered a long way from piloting an AC-130.


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Old January 13th 07, 10:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Nonsense. Even the Moslems haven't killed as many people as Stalin or Pol
Pot, and those guys were atheists.


All religions put together is what I had in mind. It makes little sense
to split one brand of superstition apart from another one.

When atheists start talking about [doing bad stuff]...


.... then they are doing bad stuff. Athiests are people too. They
aren't immune to evil, nor to groupthink. However they are at a
distinct disadvantage in pulling it off.

Jose
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Old January 15th 07, 03:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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They didn't kill anybody in the name of athiesm.

mike

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Nonsense. Even the Moslems haven't killed as many people as Stalin or Pol
Pot, and those guys were atheists.



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Old January 15th 07, 10:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:38:46 -0800, mike regish wrote
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Nonsense. Even the Moslems haven't killed as many people as Stalin or Pol
Pot, and those guys were atheists.


They didn't kill anybody in the name of athiesm.

mike

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Actually, yes they did.

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Old January 16th 07, 02:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
mike regish
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Actually, no they didn't.

mike

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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They didn't kill anybody in the name of athiesm.

mike

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Actually, yes they did.



 




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