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Jose wrote:
"Group-think" is the scariest of all human interactions.


And religion is the scariest of all group-think.

Especially the atheist religion.

Matt

Look up the word, will you?

mike

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Especially the atheist religion.

Matt

On 2007-01-13, Matt Whiting wrote:
Especially the atheist religion.

If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby.

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Dylan Smith wrote:

On 2007-01-13, Matt Whiting wrote:

Especially the atheist religion.


If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby.


Not even close to being a good analogy. Religion involves a set of
beliefs. Athesim involves a set of beliefs. A hobby is an activity.

Try again.


Matt

Matt Whiting wrote:
Dylan Smith wrote:
On 2007-01-13, Matt Whiting wrote:
Especially the atheist religion.

If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby.

Not even close to being a good analogy. Religion involves a set of
beliefs. Athesim involves a set of beliefs. A hobby is an activity.

Try again.

(A) Fred believes there are Unicorns on Pluto.
(B) Wilma believes there are Minotaurs on Neptune.
(C) Barney does not believe there are Unicorns on Pluto or Minitaurs on
Neptune.

Therefore Fred, Wilma, and Barney all have beliefs and we can treat all of
their beliefs as being equally valid.

The above line of reasoning appears to be what motivates the view that a
non-belief is a belief. It seems to be an attempt to make all the
statements appear equivalent for the purposes of establishing their truth
so that Barney must also present evidence for his case. (Pity poor Barney!)

There are an awfully large (possibly infinite) set of arbitrary claims or
statements one can make about the universe (only some of which are true) so
the logical thing to do is to not believe those assertions until the people
making the assertions have provided some supporting evidence.

Jim Logajan wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:

Dylan Smith wrote:

On 2007-01-13, Matt Whiting wrote:

Especially the atheist religion.

If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby.

Not even close to being a good analogy. Religion involves a set of
beliefs. Athesim involves a set of beliefs. A hobby is an activity.

Try again.


(A) Fred believes there are Unicorns on Pluto.
(B) Wilma believes there are Minotaurs on Neptune.
(C) Barney does not believe there are Unicorns on Pluto or Minitaurs on
Neptune.

Therefore Fred, Wilma, and Barney all have beliefs and we can treat all of
their beliefs as being equally valid.

The above line of reasoning appears to be what motivates the view that a
non-belief is a belief. It seems to be an attempt to make all the
statements appear equivalent for the purposes of establishing their truth
so that Barney must also present evidence for his case. (Pity poor Barney!)

There are an awfully large (possibly infinite) set of arbitrary claims or
statements one can make about the universe (only some of which are true) so
the logical thing to do is to not believe those assertions until the people
making the assertions have provided some supporting evidence.

Not at all. I never made any assertion about the validity of the
atheist religion, I just asserted that it is about beliefs. Validity is
a whole 'nother ball of wax.

Matt

Religion involves a set of beliefs. Athesim involves a set of beliefs.

Flying through the air involves a set of beliefs. Therefore aviation is
a religion.

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On 2007-01-15, Matt Whiting wrote:
Not even close to being a good analogy. Religion involves a set of
beliefs. Athesim involves a set of beliefs. A hobby is an activity.

A religion involves a hell of a lot more than merely a set of beliefs. A
religion also generally involves significant activity. It's quite
distinct from non-belief.

Try again!

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