Departure procedures notice

I frankly think that the FAA should require that instruction for the
IFR rating be done by CFII's who are IFR current. There are too many
CFII's out there not even able to accept an IFR clearance giving
primary IFR training. A lot of them may (or may not) have tons of
previous IFR experience. But really, it is real world IFR flying where
you pick up the ATC experience. And it is experience with ATC that is
the bottleneck with IFR flight. If you listen to hangar talk from
recent IFR flights, the pilots are always talking about how ATC did
this and ATC did that.

Doug wrote:
I frankly think that the FAA should require that instruction for the
IFR rating be done by CFII's who are IFR current. There are too many
CFII's out there not even able to accept an IFR clearance giving
primary IFR training. A lot of them may (or may not) have tons of
previous IFR experience. But really, it is real world IFR flying where
you pick up the ATC experience. And it is experience with ATC that is
the bottleneck with IFR flight. If you listen to hangar talk from
recent IFR flights, the pilots are always talking about how ATC did
this and ATC did that.


The FAA doesn't really care about the quality of light aircraft
instruction. The organization is in over its head trying to keep an eye
on commercial operators and also manage an unwieldy airspace system.

Doug wrote
I frankly think that the FAA should require that instruction for the
IFR rating be done by CFII's who are IFR current.

Well....first off Doug, it's not an "IFR" rating, just an "Instrument
Rating", often broken down into categories such as "Instrument-Airplane
Rating".

Bob Moore
Flight Instructor, Instrument Airplane

Big Deal

On Jan 26, 7:14 am, Bob Moore wrote:
Doug wrote

I frankly think that the FAA should require that instruction for the
IFR rating be done by CFII's who are IFR current.Well....first off Doug, it's not an "IFR" rating, just an "Instrument
Rating", often broken down into categories such as "Instrument-Airplane
Rating".

Bob Moore
Flight Instructor, Instrument Airplane

Doug wrote:

Big Deal

On Jan 26, 7:14 am, Bob Moore wrote:

Doug wrote


I frankly think that the FAA should require that instruction for the
IFR rating be done by CFII's who are IFR current.Well....first off Doug, it's not an "IFR" rating, just an "Instrument

Rating", often broken down into categories such as "Instrument-Airplane
Rating".

Bob Moore
Flight Instructor, Instrument Airplane


"BFD" is better! ;-)

Bob Moore wrote:
Doug wrote

I frankly think that the FAA should require that instruction for the
IFR rating be done by CFII's who are IFR current.


Well....first off Doug, it's not an "IFR" rating, just an "Instrument
Rating", often broken down into categories such as "Instrument-Airplane
Rating".

Most airline pilots don't have an instrument rating.