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Old February 11th 07, 01:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting
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Kev writes:

Still, maybe it's a non-issue, since we don't seem to hear of lots of
collisions around VORs. Seems like mid-airs are mostly around
airports. Anyone know the real stats of locations offhand?


It's probably just a question of numbers. It's much less likely that two
aircraft will pass over the same VOR at the same moment and the same altitude
than it is that two aircraft will aim for the same runway at the same time
from the same direction.

If traffic is precisely paced along airways, that could increase the risk, by
creating dangerous periods during which multiple aircraft might arrive at the
same spot at the same time.

Precise traffic control increases safety to the extent that you can control
and determine the exact position of all aircraft at the same time, but it also
diminishes safety to the extent that you _cannot_ do these things.

This implies that there's no one-size-fits-all for aviation traffic control
methods, which perhaps has significant implications for the industry, given
the periodic transition towards ever more accurate navigation methods
(unfortunately without a concomitant transition towards more accurate and
reliable anti-collision technologies).

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Old February 11th 07, 02:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting
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I disagree in principle. "Pacing" would imply everyone maintaining a
fixed distance between them and going at the same speed. That doesn't
happen often in "real" aviation. I cruise toward the imaginary VOR at
75 MPH. United 405 may be at 550 MPH (granted I am at 500 feet and they
are at 34,500 feet)...but my friend behind me may be at 500 feet and 110
MPH, therefore I better be checkin' six.

Determine the exact position of each aircraft? Nope, I don't have a
transponder and unless ATC is using primary radar, they don't even know
I exist at that VOR.

Scott


Mxsmanic wrote:


If traffic is precisely paced along airways, that could increase the risk, by
creating dangerous periods during which multiple aircraft might arrive at the
same spot at the same time.

Precise traffic control increases safety to the extent that you can control
and determine the exact position of all aircraft at the same time, but it also
diminishes safety to the extent that you _cannot_ do these things.

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Old February 11th 07, 03:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default First-hand video of a BRS deployment.

Scott writes:

I disagree in principle. "Pacing" would imply everyone maintaining a
fixed distance between them and going at the same speed. That doesn't
happen often in "real" aviation.


I know, but if it did, it could create additional problems.

Rigidly controlling separation is fine as long as the controls work. If they
slip, however, the likelihood of accidents is vastly increased over a system
that isn't predicated on such rigid control.

Determine the exact position of each aircraft? Nope, I don't have a
transponder and unless ATC is using primary radar, they don't even know
I exist at that VOR.


Yup. But that may change in the future. Start saving now, so that you can
install $100,000 worth of new avionics in your aircraft to tell Big Brother
about your every move.

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Old February 11th 07, 04:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Mxsmanic is NOT a pilot, has NEVER flown an aircraft and is NOT qualified to
issue competent information regarding any aspect of the operation of any
aircraft.


If traffic is precisely paced along airways, that could increase the risk,
by
creating dangerous periods during which multiple aircraft might arrive at
the
same spot at the same time.



 




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