Low fuel emergency in DFW

"Mike Schumann" wrote in message
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I'm not saying that ATC didn't have a problem, but by the same token, it
is also unacceptable for the pilot to continue to his destination after he
declared an emergency to avoid the delays and hassles of diverting to a
closer airport.


What closer airport?

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Mike Schumann" wrote in message
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I'm not saying that ATC didn't have a problem, but by the same token, it
is also unacceptable for the pilot to continue to his destination after he
declared an emergency to avoid the delays and hassles of diverting to a
closer airport.



What closer airport?



The Dallas news said McKinney (KTKI) and Addison (KADS) were other
choices. As someone else said, the decent cruise to KDFW would have been
just as quick.

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Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI

"Ross" wrote in message
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The Dallas news said McKinney (KTKI) and Addison (KADS) were other
choices. As someone else said, the decent cruise to KDFW would have been
just as quick.


What do you suppose the Dallas news would have said if the flight had
crashed on the way to KTKI or KADS after being denied their choice at KDFW?

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Ross" wrote in message
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The Dallas news said McKinney (KTKI) and Addison (KADS) were other
choices. As someone else said, the decent cruise to KDFW would have
been just as quick.


What do you suppose the Dallas news would have said if the flight had
crashed on the way to KTKI or KADS after being denied their choice at
KDFW?


He PASSED those two on the way to DFW.

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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He PASSED those two on the way to DFW.

You misunderstood the question.

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote

He PASSED those two on the way to DFW.

At such a high altitude that he would have had to go halfway to DFW then
turn to go back, just to lose the altitude.
--
Jim in NC

Ross wrote:

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

"Mike Schumann" wrote in message
.. .

I'm not saying that ATC didn't have a problem, but by the same token,
it is also unacceptable for the pilot to continue to his destination
after he declared an emergency to avoid the delays and hassles of
diverting to a closer airport.



What closer airport?


The Dallas news said McKinney (KTKI) and Addison (KADS) were other
choices. As someone else said, the decent cruise to KDFW would have been
just as quick.


OK the word is descent....

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Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI

"Ross" wrote in message
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Mike Schumann" wrote in message
.. .

I'm not saying that ATC didn't have a problem, but by the same token, it
is also unacceptable for the pilot to continue to his destination after
he declared an emergency to avoid the delays and hassles of diverting to
a closer airport.



What closer airport?

The Dallas news said McKinney (KTKI) and Addison (KADS) were other
choices. As someone else said, the decent cruise to KDFW would have been
just as quick.


This brings up an interesting question. Maybe a straight-in to the south
was not a problem for these other airports, but a straight-in to the south
at DFW was a pain in the ass for DFW traffic. Does ATC have the right to
decline a straight-in to DFW if they can give the pilot a reasonable
alternative? I would say ATC should immediately provide the straight-in to
DFW if they can not give the pilot a different option, but if a straight-in
to another airport is offered maybe they can deny the straight in to DFW.
Obviously, to the pilot, landing at a non-DFW airport will create quite a
fuss for his carrier. There will cerainly be a lot of ****ed off passengers
that are delayed in getting to DFW.

Obviously the pilot can fly the straight-in to DFW regardless of ATC
clearance, but the pilot will have to answer to the FAA after he lands (this
is hint that a "certain somebody" does not need to repeat for the upteenth
time on this thread that the pilot can do what he needs to do in the event
of an emergency). BTW, I don't see a regulation that requires ATC to do
exactly what the emergency pilot wants at exactly the time the pilot asks
for it in the FARs. There is a reg that says the pilot can deviate, but I
can't find the one that ATC must obey the pilot without question or offering
alternatives.

Danny Deger

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Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI

"Danny Deger" wrote in message
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This brings up an interesting question. Maybe a straight-in to the south
was not a problem for these other airports, but a straight-in to the south
at DFW was a pain in the ass for DFW traffic. Does ATC have the right to
decline a straight-in to DFW if they can give the pilot a reasonable
alternative?

No.

Danny Deger wrote:
"Ross" wrote in message
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Mike Schumann" wrote in message
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I'm not saying that ATC didn't have a problem, but by the same
token, it is also unacceptable for the pilot to continue to his
destination after he declared an emergency to avoid the delays and
hassles of diverting to a closer airport.



What closer airport?

The Dallas news said McKinney (KTKI) and Addison (KADS) were other
choices. As someone else said, the decent cruise to KDFW would have
been just as quick.


This brings up an interesting question. Maybe a straight-in to the
south was not a problem for these other airports, but a straight-in
to the south at DFW was a pain in the ass for DFW traffic. Does ATC
have the right to decline a straight-in to DFW if they can give the
pilot a reasonable alternative?

No