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Old April 15th 07, 07:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,us.military.army,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
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Mistaking an F-4 for a Scooter or a MiG 21 is like mistaking an 18-
wheeler for a Hummer. Sure, a moron could do it.


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Old April 15th 07, 08:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,us.military.army,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
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On 15 Apr 2007 11:41:55 -0700, "Gordon"
wrote:

Mistaking an F-4 for a Scooter or a MiG 21 is like mistaking an 18-
wheeler for a Hummer. Sure, a moron could do it.

It's remarkably easy to mistake a Scooter for a MiG-21 from some
aspects. Been there, done that. Didn't shoot!


Ed Rasimus
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www.thundertales.blogspot.com
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Old April 15th 07, 09:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,us.military.army,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
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On 15 Apr 2007 11:41:55 -0700, "Gordon"
wrote:

Mistaking an F-4 for a Scooter or a MiG 21 is like mistaking an 18-
wheeler for a Hummer. Sure, a moron could do it.

It's remarkably easy to mistake a Scooter for a MiG-21 from some
aspects. Been there, done that. Didn't shoot!


Was that an electric or a gas scooter?



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Old April 16th 07, 04:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,us.military.army,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
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On Apr 15, 3:06 pm, Ed Rasimus wrote:
On 15 Apr 2007 11:41:55 -0700, "Gordon"
wrote:

Mistaking an F-4 for a Scooter or a MiG 21 is like mistaking an 18-
wheeler for a Hummer. Sure, a moron could do it.


It's remarkably easy to mistake a Scooter for a MiG-21 from some
aspects. Been there, done that. Didn't shoot!

Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
www.thunderchief.org
www.thundertales.blogspot.com


Hey, hey, hey . . . just a minute . . . details, details, we want
details on this.

Seriously, I don't remember this particular war story. I am sure that
I am not the only one in the group would appreciate it if you could
tell us more about this experience.

Thanks and blue skies to all

John



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Old April 16th 07, 08:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,us.military.army,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
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On 16 Apr 2007 08:51:48 -0700, "John" wrote:

On Apr 15, 3:06 pm, Ed Rasimus wrote:
On 15 Apr 2007 11:41:55 -0700, "Gordon"
wrote:

Mistaking an F-4 for a Scooter or a MiG 21 is like mistaking an 18-
wheeler for a Hummer. Sure, a moron could do it.


It's remarkably easy to mistake a Scooter for a MiG-21 from some
aspects. Been there, done that. Didn't shoot!

Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
www.thunderchief.org
www.thundertales.blogspot.com


Hey, hey, hey . . . just a minute . . . details, details, we want
details on this.

Seriously, I don't remember this particular war story. I am sure that
I am not the only one in the group would appreciate it if you could
tell us more about this experience.

Thanks and blue skies to all

John


Stories that don't get told, are usually stories with not much to
tell. This one was simply a case of milling around over N. Vietnam and
finding myself directly below a suspicious silouhette--in those days,
the general rule that I followed was that you can't be too fast, and
you can almost never be too low.

Clearly defined black silhouette above of small aircraft with narrow
fuselage, fairly small delta wing and a distinct tail plane. All the
components of the MiG-21 silhouette. Single exhaust, no smoke.
Instantaneous analysis was enemy aircraft--three seconds later, the
bogie rolled and the humpbacked, stubby fuselage of an A-4 was clearly
indentifiable and my equally instantaneous analysis was "how could I
have ever thought it looked like a MiG?"

Fortunately the whole sequence took place too quickly for me to engage
mouth and broadcast my stupidity to the civilized (i.e. USAF) world.



Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
www.thunderchief.org
www.thundertales.blogspot.com
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Old April 16th 07, 02:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,us.military.army,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
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Gordon wrote:
Mistaking an F-4 for a Scooter or a MiG 21 is like mistaking an 18-
wheeler for a Hummer. Sure, a moron could do it.


Watch the movie "Ice Station Zebra" sometime- the MiG-21s magically
transform into F-4s as they overfly the ice station.

Pat
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Old April 16th 07, 02:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,us.military.army,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
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On Apr 15, 6:15 pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
Gordon wrote:
Mistaking an F-4 for a Scooter or a MiG 21 is like mistaking an 18-
wheeler for a Hummer. Sure, a moron could do it.


Watch the movie "Ice Station Zebra" sometime- the MiG-21s magically
transform into F-4s as they overfly the ice station.



I can do better than that. ) I have the 3' long MiG 21 model from
the movie on a shelf over my desk. They only used one, set up among
mirrors to make it appear to be a small formation of jets. Watch them
bank in the movie - that formation is almost "magically" tight...

The guy that made the movel originally is still breathing - we are
going to get him to replace the canopy which has deformed over the
years. Neat model, lots of detail, however most of it is painted on.

v/r Gordon

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Old April 16th 07, 04:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,us.military.army,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
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Gordon wrote:
I can do better than that. ) I have the 3' long MiG 21 model from
the movie on a shelf over my desk. They only used one, set up among
mirrors to make it appear to be a small formation of jets. Watch them
bank in the movie - that formation is almost "magically" tight...


Speaking of being "magically tight", I once saw that model displayed up
on a wall in another movie...in a porn movie to be specific.
How and when exactly did you come into possession of it?

Neat model, lots of detail, however most of it is painted on.


That's what they used to say about Seka also.

Pat
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Old April 16th 07, 07:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,us.military.army,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
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The man that built it donated it to the San Diego Aerospace Museum in
approximately 1982 -- I have a photo of myself with it in September
1983 in the library of the museum.

v/r
Gordon

Seka? Did you really just invoke the name of Seka?? You are talking
to a fan of KEISHA, a *real* woman!

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Old April 19th 07, 01:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,us.military.army,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
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Gordon wrote:
The man that built it donated it to the San Diego Aerospace Museum in
approximately 1982 -- I have a photo of myself with it in September
1983 in the library of the museum.

Now that's interesting, as the movie probably dated from the late 70's.
Did they film a porn movie at his house?
It was obviously the one from the movie; it was about three feet in
length, silver, and of the early MiG-21F type.
It was mounted flat on the wall, topside outwards IIRC.

v/r
Gordon

Seka? Did you really just invoke the name of Seka?? You are talking
to a fan of KEISHA, a *real* woman!


Aunt Peg. You can tell she's really enjoying it all.

Pat
 




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