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Old April 22nd 07, 09:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Maxwell writes:

No, because anyone can make a mistake. It just eliminates the possibility of
some idot like you from teaching himself to fly on MSFS, and then getting
into a real aircraft and killing innocent people because he had no grasp on
his own limitations.


I'm certain that I would be a safer pilot even without a license than some of
the licensed pilots I've encountered. The validity of licensing as a tool for
identifying persons competent in a particularly domain is often exaggerated by
orders of magnitude, and aviation is no exception.

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Old April 22nd 07, 11:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Maxwell writes:

No, because anyone can make a mistake. It just eliminates the possibility
of
some idot like you from teaching himself to fly on MSFS, and then getting
into a real aircraft and killing innocent people because he had no grasp
on
his own limitations.


I'm certain that I would be a safer pilot even without a license than some
of
the licensed pilots I've encountered. The validity of licensing as a tool
for
identifying persons competent in a particularly domain is often
exaggerated by
orders of magnitude, and aviation is no exception.


No, actually you just proved my point. You have never had you hands on
anything that flys, yet you state emphaticly that you are certain. Idots
like you are the best possible example of why the licensing process is so
vital to everyone's safety.


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Old April 23rd 07, 02:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Maxwell writes:

You have never had you hands on anything that flys, yet you state
emphaticly that you are certain.


Yes.

Idots like you are the best possible example of why the licensing
process is so vital to everyone's safety.


It's not as vital as it appears. How many pilots fly without a license, or
without a medical?

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Old April 23rd 07, 03:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Maxwell writes:

You have never had you hands on anything that flys, yet you state
emphaticly that you are certain.


Yes.


Exactly, your ignorance and arrogance proves the point. Thank you.


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Old April 25th 07, 04:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Maxwell writes:

You have never had you hands on anything that flys, yet you state
emphaticly that you are certain.


Yes.

Idots like you are the best possible example of why the licensing
process is so vital to everyone's safety.


It's not as vital as it appears. How many pilots fly without a
license, or without a medical?


What' sit matter to you? You couldn't fly even if you had one. You
couldn't fly if you had a brasss badge riveted to your ass saying you
were Orville Fjukking Wright.


Bertie
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Old April 25th 07, 07:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:

How many pilots fly without a license,
or without a medical?


Pilots flying without a license, this one is easy: none of them (ok,
some might be picky and point out that folks flying with a certificate
issued under 14 CFR 61.75 do indeed need a license in addition to their
certificate, if their country of origin issues one).

as for folks flying without a medical; well, you have all the glider
pilots to boot, and they have been doing that for a long time, no
problem; and pilots with sport pilot certificates. (I don't know about
ultralights pilots but I reckon they don't need one either); To that lot,
you can also add a number of instructors, since a valid medical is not
required to instruct a student who is already certificated.

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Old April 25th 07, 07:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Sylvain wrote:


Pilots flying without a license, this one is easy: none of them (ok,
some might be picky and point out that folks flying with a certificate
issued under 14 CFR 61.75 do indeed need a license in addition to their
certificate, if their country of origin issues one).


Ah, what? There's quite a few people out there with no ratings at all
flying airplanes. I know one guy near me with a pretty nice Ercoupe.



as for folks flying without a medical; well, you have all the glider
pilots to boot, and they have been doing that for a long time, no
problem; and pilots with sport pilot certificates. (I don't know about
ultralights pilots but I reckon they don't need one either); To that lot,
you can also add a number of instructors, since a valid medical is not
required to instruct a student who is already certificated.


And the regular pilots who simply choose not to participate in the
system anymore but fly anyways.

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Old April 25th 07, 08:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Sylvain writes:

Pilots flying without a license, this one is easy: none of them (ok,
some might be picky and point out that folks flying with a certificate
issued under 14 CFR 61.75 do indeed need a license in addition to their
certificate, if their country of origin issues one).

as for folks flying without a medical; well, you have all the glider
pilots to boot, and they have been doing that for a long time, no
problem; and pilots with sport pilot certificates. (I don't know about
ultralights pilots but I reckon they don't need one either); To that lot,
you can also add a number of instructors, since a valid medical is not
required to instruct a student who is already certificated.


Actually, I meant how many pilots are flying illegally (because they lack a
valid license or a current medical, for example)?

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Old April 26th 07, 01:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
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Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Sylvain writes:

Pilots flying without a license, this one is easy: none of them
(ok, some might be picky and point out that folks flying with a
certificate issued under 14 CFR 61.75 do indeed need a license in
addition to their certificate, if their country of origin issues
one).

as for folks flying without a medical; well, you have all the
glider pilots to boot, and they have been doing that for a long
time, no problem; and pilots with sport pilot certificates. (I
don't know about ultralights pilots but I reckon they don't need one
either); To that lot, you can also add a number of instructors,
since a valid medical is not required to instruct a student who is
already certificated.


Actually, I meant how many pilots are flying illegally (because they
lack a valid license or a current medical, for example)?


Well, not you, even though you don't have a licence, you don't fly!

Bertie
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Old April 27th 07, 07:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Sylvain" wrote in message
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Pilots flying without a license, this one is easy: none of them (ok,
some might be picky and point out that folks flying with a certificate
issued under 14 CFR 61.75 do indeed need a license in addition to their
certificate, if their country of origin issues one).


An airman certificate is a license.


 




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