high winds in Palm Spring

Jim,

Thanks very much for the advice. The trip from Plao Alto to SLO is an
easy and nice flight. I will put the route you suggested into Voyager
and check it out. I have no problem going through Banning at
8500/9500, I just wanted a route that would have the most low
terrain. Personal preference on my part. Besides, I love flying
above the coast. And I do know the Indian casino building for ATC
pickup, I have driven by it on the freeway. BTW what do you fly?

David

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Jim,

Thanks very much for the advice. The trip from Plao Alto to SLO is an
easy and nice flight. I will put the route you suggested into Voyager
and check it out. I have no problem going through Banning at
8500/9500, I just wanted a route that would have the most low
terrain. Personal preference on my part. Besides, I love flying
above the coast. And I do know the Indian casino building for ATC
pickup, I have driven by it on the freeway. BTW what do you fly?

David

8500 is the highest I've ever had to go to get a fairly smooth
ride, but if the Santa Ana's are blowing, I don't go near the
passes.

The winds have been calm and are forecast to stay that way for
a while.

I fly a 79 Tiger.


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Jim

A '79 Tiger ehhhhh, nice

I was wondering about the heat in Plam Springs and if there are any
problems getting out of there when it is relatively hot during the
day. I know that at Tahoe we keep a very close eye on the temp with
the airport being at 6K+. I would like to come back home in the
afternoon and the temps are forecast to be in the mid '90s. Do you
have any experience trying to leave daytime? I just will not try to
fly VFR at night through the mountains at this point in my career. I
also have the concern that the Archer has a 180hp engine. It gets me
out of Tahoe OK, but real slow.

Thanks

David

Jim

A '79 Tiger ehhhhh, nice

I was wondering about the heat in Plam Springs and if there are any
problems getting out of there when it is relatively hot during the
day. I know that at Tahoe we keep a very close eye on the temp with
the airport being at 6K+. I would like to come back home in the
afternoon and the temps are forecast to be in the mid '90s. Do you
have any experience trying to leave daytime? I just will not try to
fly VFR at night through the mountains at this point in my career. I
also have the concern that the Archer has a 180hp engine. It gets me
out of Tahoe OK, but real slow.

Thanks

David

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Jim

A '79 Tiger ehhhhh, nice

I was wondering about the heat in Plam Springs and if there are any
problems getting out of there when it is relatively hot during the
day. I know that at Tahoe we keep a very close eye on the temp with
the airport being at 6K+. I would like to come back home in the
afternoon and the temps are forecast to be in the mid '90s. Do you
have any experience trying to leave daytime? I just will not try to
fly VFR at night through the mountains at this point in my career. I
also have the concern that the Archer has a 180hp engine. It gets me
out of Tahoe OK, but real slow.

Thanks

Well, the altitude at UDD is 73 feet with a 5000 foot runway, and
with a temp of 104 according to the chart I'm looking at gives a
density altitude of about 3000 feet.

Getting off the ground shouldn't be a problem with an Archer.

UDD is about 20 some miles from the mouth of the pass so getting
to the 4000 feet or so minimum to get through the pass shouldn't
be a problem either.

All the times I've landed at PSP was before I bought the Tiger
and in a 172 and never had any problem getting to altitude
before the pass and PSP is a bit over 10 miles from the pass.

If it were the middle of the summer with temps well over 100
and flying something like a 152 at max gross, you might want
to depart to the south east to gain altitude then turn back
towards the pass, but the Archer should have no problem.

Going through Banning pass at night is no big deal. You just
follow the freeway through.


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Jim,

Thanks so much, you have been a world of help to me. The farthest I
have been from Palo Alto so far is Santa Barbara. This is not that
much further, but the unknown is the unknown. I will have a much
easier time now and more peace of mind with your help.

David

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Jim,

Thanks so much, you have been a world of help to me. The farthest I
have been from Palo Alto so far is Santa Barbara. This is not that
much further, but the unknown is the unknown. I will have a much
easier time now and more peace of mind with your help.

David

Not a problem.

Just be sure to use flight following and keep a good scan for traffic.

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On 2007-05-22, wrote:
If it were the middle of the summer with temps well over 100
and flying something like a 152 at max gross, you might want
to depart to the south east to gain altitude then turn back
towards the pass, but the Archer should have no problem.

I did it from a little further down the valley (Thermal airfield, I
can't remember what it's official name is, but it's actually below sea
level) in an 85 hp C140... with a cruise prop, on a day which was over
100 degrees. It didn't climb very well, but I didn't have any trouble
getting through Banning pass.

Two weeks later, I crossed the Sierra Nevadas in that aircraft. It took
more or less 100 miles of climbing to get enough altitude to cross :-)

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Dylan Smith wrote:
On 2007-05-22, wrote:
If it were the middle of the summer with temps well over 100
and flying something like a 152 at max gross, you might want
to depart to the south east to gain altitude then turn back
towards the pass, but the Archer should have no problem.

I did it from a little further down the valley (Thermal airfield, I
can't remember what it's official name is, but it's actually below sea
level) in an 85 hp C140... with a cruise prop, on a day which was over
100 degrees. It didn't climb very well, but I didn't have any trouble
getting through Banning pass.

Two weeks later, I crossed the Sierra Nevadas in that aircraft. It took
more or less 100 miles of climbing to get enough altitude to cross :-)

It is now called Cochran Regional (TRM) at -115 feet.

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