Bluetooth Wireless Headsets

That's the link I just finished reading.

Sounds like a great idea.

A few questions that immediately pop into my head a

Are they ANR's? I missed that in the link.

how big is the "wireless module that connects to your aircraft RCA jacks"
(and where do I put it)

Is the 8-10 hours on a charge for the 3v Lithium battery a real world number
or is that without anybody talking?
How many flights will I be forced to dig for the RCA cords and plug myself
in because the battery just died?

Most of us can carry on a conversation while ATC talks with other aircraft,
keeping an ear perked for our N number or location. Although I know nothing
about "cascading frequencies" I wonder if cockpit conversations as well as
music will be totally cut off when ATC speaks.

Looks like Christmas roll out once they find a headset partner. Someone
else to add to my OSH list!

Jim


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
No. Where did you see it? What does it entail and what does it cost?

Do a search for "Lopresti Headset" and you'll get gajillion hits.
Here's one:

http://www.sbwire.com/news/view/11896
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Are they ANR's? I missed that in the link.

In my opinion, the hot setup is a small box (cigarette package size) that
clips to the back of your seat, your belt loop, or your shirt pocket and
your CURRENT HEADSET plugs into that box. Two main advantages: One, it
uses your expensive current headset in any format you desire AND if the
"wireless module" goes TU, you take the headset plugs out of the module,
break the wiretie cord, plug them into the aircraft jacks and you are back
in business. While connected to the module, you can coil the headset cable
up and tie it with rubber bands or thread that can be easily broken in the
aforementioned TU mode of operation.

I have just gotten my response from TI as to their recommendations for the
technology (strangely enough, just started last Tuesday before I got wind of
this nonsense) and their recommendation is to go straight ISM and not fool
around with Bluetooth or Zigbee...this from their senior applications
engineer.

We are going to have a wireless unit by Christmas also, but I decline to
state the year {;-)



how big is the "wireless module that connects to your aircraft RCA jacks"
(and where do I put it)

Aircraft do not have RCA jacks with one exception and that is the antenna
connection on a marker receiver in some makes and models. Some older
transceivers used them on the NAV antenna as well, but nobody uses RCA for
audio.




Is the 8-10 hours on a charge for the 3v Lithium battery a real world
number
or is that without anybody talking?
How many flights will I be forced to dig for the RCA cords and plug myself
in because the battery just died?

If we can get 50 hours on a 9 volt battery for a full 4-station intercom, I
fail to see how a simple microwatt transceiver will only get 10 hours on a
Lion battery.




Most of us can carry on a conversation while ATC talks with other
aircraft,
keeping an ear perked for our N number or location. Although I know
nothing
about "cascading frequencies" I wonder if cockpit conversations as well as
music will be totally cut off when ATC speaks.

We did a hell of a lot of testing in-flight before we decided that the ONLY
priority in the audio system should be to shut the music off whenever
ANYTHING else (ATC, intercom, marker, alert, etc.) comes on. You should
have control of everything else.



Looks like Christmas roll out once they find a headset partner. Someone
else to add to my OSH list!

I'd volunteer, but I really don't like their design mechanisms ... it seems
you have to have an Ipod on board, the priority system sucks, the battery
life is nfg, and while Bluetooth is a great buzzword it really doesn't
belong in this sort of a system.

IMnsHO, of course.

Jim

and their recommendation is to go straight ISM and not fool
around with Bluetooth or Zigbee

What is ISM? (and what is zigbee?)

Jose
--
There are two kinds of people in the world. Those that just want to
know what button to push, and those that want to know what happens when
they push the button.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Google is your friend. ISM is Industrial, Scientific, Medical and Zigbee is
a proprietary form of spread spectrum modulation.

Jim

--
There are only 10 kinds of people in the world.
Those who count in binary and those who don't
"Jose" wrote in message
t...
and their recommendation is to go straight ISM and not fool around with
Bluetooth or Zigbee

What is ISM? (and what is zigbee?)

Jose
--
There are two kinds of people in the world. Those that just want to know
what button to push, and those that want to know what happens when they
push the button.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Google is your friend. ISM is Industrial, Scientific, Medical and Zigbee is
a proprietary form of spread spectrum modulation.

Google may be my friend, but I guess I need a best buddy. I know about
acronymfinder.com and a few others (and had already been there), but
given "Industrial, Scientific, Medical" as a possibility, I would not
have thought it applied here (i.e. as opposed to Bluetooth).

Once asking about ISM, why not ask about Zigbee? (does it replace
Bluetooth?)

Jose
--
There are two kinds of people in the world. Those that just want to
know what button to push, and those that want to know what happens when
they push the button.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

On Wed, 30 May 2007 09:12:31 -0700, "RST Engineering"
wrote in
:

In my opinion, the hot setup is a small box (cigarette package size) that
clips to the back of your seat, your belt loop, or your shirt pocket and
your CURRENT HEADSET plugs into that box. Two main advantages: One, it
uses your expensive current headset in any format you desire AND if the
"wireless module" goes TU, you take the headset plugs out of the module,
break the wiretie cord, plug them into the aircraft jacks and you are back
in business. While connected to the module, you can coil the headset cable
up and tie it with rubber bands or thread that can be easily broken in the
aforementioned TU mode of operation.

That sounds like in intelligent solution.

I suppose there'll have to be another little box to plug into the
headset jacks. The audio portion seems relatively straightforward,
but have you designed a robust method of keying the mic _only_ when
intended, that won't be affected by stray transmissions?

I have just gotten my response from TI as to their recommendations for the
technology and their recommendation is to go straight ISM and not fool
around with Bluetooth or Zigbee...this from their senior applications
engineer.

It's hard to argue with Motorola, but it would seem that with so many
cell phones supporting BlueTooth now, the additional ability to
communicate with the phone might be a plus.

("Larry Dighera" wrote)
It's hard to argue with Motorola, but it would seem that with so many cell
phones supporting BlueTooth now, the additional ability to communicate
with the phone might be a plus.


Great. Now you can get cut off in the pattern - by people talking on their
cell phones. :-)


Montblack

On Wed, 30 May 2007 14:23:51 -0500, "Montblack"
wrote in
:


Great. Now you can get cut off in the pattern - by people talking on their
cell phones. :-)

Or contact approach/center when your radio fails.

("Larry Dighera" wrote)
Great. Now you can get cut off in the pattern - by people talking on their
cell phones. :-)

Or contact approach/center when your radio fails.


Text message coming in, it's our departure clearance.

http://www.terma.com/index.dsp?page=694#


Montblackberry

In article ,
"Montblack" wrote:

("Larry Dighera" wrote)
Great. Now you can get cut off in the pattern - by people talking on their
cell phones. :-)

Or contact approach/center when your radio fails.


Text message coming in, it's our departure clearance.

http://www.terma.com/index.dsp?page=694#

Been around for years... called ACARS