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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 23:03:15 -0000, Jim Logajan wrote in : Your citation of AC90-66A [1] appears to clearly indicate that the FAA prefers that IFR pilots report their positions by transmitting their distance from uncontrolled airports when landing at same: How do you resolve that conclusion with the third paragraph from the end below: .... AC 90-42F Traffic Advisory Practices at Airports without Operating Control Towers .... 11. EXAMPLES OF SELF-ANNOUNCE PHRASEOLOGIES. .... (3) Practice Instrument Approach: STRAWN TRAFFIC, CESSNA TWO THREE FOUR THREE QUEBEC (NAME - FINAL APPROACH FIX) INBOUND DESCENDING THROUGH (ALTITUDE) PRACTICE (TYPE) APPROACH RUNWAY THREE FIVE STRAWN. To paraphrase Walt Whitman: It is the FAA. It is large, it contains multitudes. It contradicts itself. "Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself (I am large, I contain multitudes)." --Walt Whitman, Song of Myself |
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![]() "Jim Logajan" wrote in message .. . To paraphrase Walt Whitman: It is the FAA. It is large, it contains multitudes. It contradicts itself. So which practice should be followed? The one in AC 90-66A which provides reliable information to none or the one in AC 90-42F which provides reliable information to some? |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:
So which practice should be followed? The one in AC 90-66A which provides reliable information to none or the one in AC 90-42F which provides reliable information to some? I've found a very helpful AOPA document that provides useful guidance on this subject (and provides me an answer to your questions): "Safety Advisor Operations & Proficiency No. 3 Operations at Nontowered Airports": http://www.aopa.org/asf/publications/sa08.pdf It states: "Pilots practicing instrument approaches at nontowered airports on a VFR day should announce their position in both IFR and VFR terms, "Frederick traffic, Seminole Three-Six Lima, RICKE inbound, four-mile final, Runway Two-Three, Frederick." VFR pilots will benefit from a little education about instrument operations at a nontowered airport. Learn if the airport has IFR approaches and, if so, to which runways by referencing the A/FD. Have an instrumentrated pilot or instructor describe the approach procedures and explain the phraseology IFR pilots use to announce their positions and intentions. .... If you know where the missed approach holding fixes are and how instrument traffic navigates to those fixes, you’ll know where IFR pilots are headed when they announce on the CTAF they are executing a practice missed approach." There is more relevant material (including advice on when a straight-in approach is not recommended) but the document's recommendations appear to be (to me at least) better than the too-brief recommendations in the two FAA ACs referenced above. So my answer to your questions would be "neither," and would follow the practice recommended by the AOPA document. |
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