Chinese (and other) pilots unable to speak English pose danger for air travel (CNN)

A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

On the CTAF, you need to be able to be in communication with
everyone other than ATC, (meaning, hearing other pilots on frequency).

CTAF is not an ATC frequency.

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In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

On the CTAF, you need to be able to be in communication with
everyone other than ATC, (meaning, hearing other pilots on frequency).

CTAF is not an ATC frequency.

http://www.fordyce.org/scanning/scan...o/govtuse.html

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Aeronautical mobile service spectrum requirements are accommodated
mostly in the HF (3-23 MHz) and VHF (117.975-137 MHz) portion of the radio
spectrum. The VHF band provides the primary communications mode for Air
Traffic Service (ATS) and Aeronautical Operational Control (AOC) safety
communications for all areas of the world where radio line-of-sight
services can be established. In the United States, this band is used by
Federal Aviation Administration to provide ATS safety communications and
by users such as, the airlines, business aviation, and general aviation to
provide AOC safety communications.
- --snip--

This covers all frequencies reserved for air traffic and
control of such traffic, and implies that any of such frequencies can
and may be used for *air traffic control*. Furthermo

- --snip--
Each communications frequency is re-used as often as possible (due to the
fixed number of available frequencies) so that continuous coverage can be
established to support air traffic control systems.
- --snip--

You will find that all CTAFs for various fields are within the
above VHF range for such coverage for ATC systems. You will also find
that most CTAF frequencies at fields that close for the night also are
the Tower frequency for that field.

In short, you are wrong. But I'm pretty sure you will argue
that the information on that page is wrong, just like you do everything
else in this world. Oh, btw.. Humidity was 30% in Oklahoma City today,
and guess what.. it didn't rain!

BL.
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A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

This covers all frequencies reserved for air traffic and
control of such traffic, and implies that any of such frequencies can
and may be used for *air traffic control*.

CTAF is not an ATC frequency. It is used by pilots when ATC is not available.

In short, you are wrong.

Just as I was wrong about the sun in Paris setting later than it does in Las
Vegas on the solstice?

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

This covers all frequencies reserved for air traffic and
control of such traffic, and implies that any of such frequencies can
and may be used for *air traffic control*.

CTAF is not an ATC frequency. It is used by pilots when ATC is not
available.

Did you even read what he posted? What part of "all frequencies reserved for
air traffic and control of such traffic" didn't you understand.


Just as I was wrong about the sun in Paris setting later than it does in
Las
Vegas on the solstice?

Stupid people are sometimes right.

Uh, the sun always sets later in Las Vegas than in Paris if On Jul 2,
8:13 pm, "El Maximo" wrote:
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message

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A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

This covers all frequencies reserved for air traffic and
control of such traffic, and implies that any of such frequencies can
and may be used for *air traffic control*.

CTAF is not an ATC frequency. It is used by pilots when ATC is not
available.

Did you even read what he posted? What part of "all frequencies reserved for
air traffic and control of such traffic" didn't you understand.



Just as I was wrong about the sun in Paris setting later than it does in
Las
Vegas on the solstice?

Stupid people are sometimes right.

writes:

Uh, the sun always sets later in Las Vegas than in Paris if On Jul 2,

Sunset is at 9:57 PM local time today in Paris, and at 8:01 PM local time in
Las Vegas.

Paris, being much further north than Las Vegas, sees much greater seasonal
variations in the length of daylight each day.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
writes:

Uh, the sun always sets later in Las Vegas than in Paris if On Jul 2,

Sunset is at 9:57 PM local time today in Paris, and at 8:01 PM local time
in
Las Vegas.

Changing the problem again, I see.

Nobody said local time.

An intelligent person would have seen how obvious the statement was.

On a given day, the sun always sets earlier in Paris than in Nevada.



On Jul 2, 8:13 pm, "El Maximo" wrote:
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message

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A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

This covers all frequencies reserved for air traffic and
control of such traffic, and implies that any of such frequencies can
and may be used for *air traffic control*.

CTAF is not an ATC frequency. It is used by pilots when ATC is not
available.

Did you even read what he posted? What part of "all frequencies reserved for
air traffic and control of such traffic" didn't you understand.



Just as I was wrong about the sun in Paris setting later than it does in
Las
Vegas on the solstice?

Stupid people are sometimes right.

On a given day, the sun always sets earlier in Paris than in Nevada.

Local or global time?

In article , gernot almen wrote:
On a given day, the sun always sets earlier in Paris than in Nevada.

Local or global time?

Local time is a political fiction.
Global (i.e., actual) time is all that matters.