Chinese (and other) pilots unable to speak English pose danger for air travel (CNN)

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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People can study a language for years without learning it.

Mostly, they find their instructor is incompetent long before they spend
years studying.

Incompetant people can claim to teach it without any of their students
actually learning anything. Fortunately, unless the teacher impersonater is
exceedingly stupid, they realize that they're not making the same amount of
money as the real teachers and find something else to do.

France has some of the worst English instruction

I don't doubt it. I suspect there are no real standards one must meet in
order to claim to be an english teacher in France.

El Maximo writes:

Mostly, they find their instructor is incompetent long before they spend
years studying.

Many instructors are incompetent, but many students lack motivation as well.
Either may prevent a student from gaining competence in a language, even after
many years of study. And there are other factors.

Incompetant people can claim to teach it without any of their students
actually learning anything.

Yes. And students can claim to study it without actually learning anything as
well.

Fortunately, unless the teacher impersonater is
exceedingly stupid, they realize that they're not making the same amount of
money as the real teachers and find something else to do.

Many of the worst teachers have impeccable credentials and are well paid, and
vice versa.

I don't doubt it. I suspect there are no real standards one must meet in
order to claim to be an english teacher in France.

Read _Sorbonne Confidential_.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Many of the worst teachers have impeccable credentials and are well paid,
and
vice versa.

Whiners who can't make it usually use that kind of rationalization when the
truth is they simply can't cut it.



Read _Sorbonne Confidential_.

Request denied.

El Maximo writes:

Whiners who can't make it usually use that kind of rationalization when the
truth is they simply can't cut it.

I've already recommended reading on the subject. There's a reason why so few
French people can speak any useful English despite years of formal education
in the language.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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El Maximo writes:

Whiners who can't make it usually use that kind of rationalization when
the
truth is they simply can't cut it.

I've already recommended reading on the subject. There's a reason why so
few
French people can speak any useful English despite years of formal
education
in the language.

Your past history lead me to ignore anything you might 'recommend'. I
suspect any intelligent person would do the same.

With english teachers like you in the system, I'm suprised ANY french people
can speak English.

El Maximo writes:

Your past history lead me to ignore anything you might 'recommend'. I
suspect any intelligent person would do the same.

Read this again, carefully.

With english teachers like you in the system, I'm suprised ANY french people
can speak English.

The English teachers they have in public school are not like me, and as a
result they cannot speak English after leaving school. They then come to
people like me to actually learn the language. It's unfortunate for the
country but it does keep hundreds of private language schools in business.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Read this again, carefully.


You have never given me cause to follow your instructions.

You have always given me cause be highly skeptical of any of your 'advice'.