i think I flew into class c airspace accidentally withoutestablishing communication

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrote in message
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Morgans wrote:

Not that I would disagree with what you said above, g but what if the
plane the pilot wants to take the test in does not have a VOR reciever in
it? Can that plane be used, or do you have to find a different plane to
take the test in?

I never had seen that question asked or answered around here before.


I don't know the practical test standard has the part in it about showing
the skills to use electronic navigation. While any of the requirements
could be met with any number of systems, ADF, VOR, GPS, Loran. I have not
a clue as to how you would do it in say a Cub that didn't have any.

I fly with a student in a C-170B, that has an ADF and a GPS only. He
needs to show that he can track a bearing based on electronic navigation. No
VOR, no Problem.

Al G

Al G wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrote in message
...
Morgans wrote:

Not that I would disagree with what you said above, g but what if the
plane the pilot wants to take the test in does not have a VOR reciever in
it? Can that plane be used, or do you have to find a different plane to
take the test in?

I never had seen that question asked or answered around here before.

I don't know the practical test standard has the part in it about showing
the skills to use electronic navigation. While any of the requirements
could be met with any number of systems, ADF, VOR, GPS, Loran. I have not
a clue as to how you would do it in say a Cub that didn't have any.

I fly with a student in a C-170B, that has an ADF and a GPS only. He
needs to show that he can track a bearing based on electronic navigation. No
VOR, no Problem.

Al G



That's the question though Al. What if that C-170B had neither an ADF or
a GPS.

Gig 601XL Builder wrote in
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Al G wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrote in message
...
Morgans wrote:

Not that I would disagree with what you said above, g but what if
the plane the pilot wants to take the test in does not have a VOR
reciever in it? Can that plane be used, or do you have to find a
different plane to take the test in?

I never had seen that question asked or answered around here
before.

I don't know the practical test standard has the part in it about
showing the skills to use electronic navigation. While any of the
requirements could be met with any number of systems, ADF, VOR, GPS,
Loran. I have not a clue as to how you would do it in say a Cub that
didn't have any.

I fly with a student in a C-170B, that has an ADF and a GPS only.
He
needs to show that he can track a bearing based on electronic
navigation. No VOR, no Problem.

Al G



That's the question though Al. What if that C-170B had neither an ADF
or a GPS.


I used to teach in J-3s and we had to check the students out in a Cesna
170 or a 150 before sending them off for their check rides so they could
do a little hood time, night time and radio time. they did them in one
of those two airplanes as well.


Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote in
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Al G wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrote in message
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Morgans wrote:

Not that I would disagree with what you said above, g but what if
the plane the pilot wants to take the test in does not have a VOR
reciever in it? Can that plane be used, or do you have to find a
different plane to take the test in?

I never had seen that question asked or answered around here
before.

I don't know the practical test standard has the part in it about
showing the skills to use electronic navigation. While any of the
requirements could be met with any number of systems, ADF, VOR, GPS,
Loran. I have not a clue as to how you would do it in say a Cub that
didn't have any.

I fly with a student in a C-170B, that has an ADF and a GPS only.
He
needs to show that he can track a bearing based on electronic
navigation. No VOR, no Problem.

Al G



That's the question though Al. What if that C-170B had neither an ADF
or a GPS.


I used to teach in J-3s and we had to check the students out in a Cesna
170 or a 150 before sending them off for their check rides so they could
do a little hood time, night time and radio time. they did them in one
of those two airplanes as well.


Bertie

The practical test standards require that you show navigation by
electronic aids.
You would have to use an aircraft that had one, bring one along, or install
it. You could probably rent an aircraft for that part of the checkride only,
but again, you would have to be legal in it.

Al G

"Al G" wrote in
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote in
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Al G wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrote in message
...
Morgans wrote:

Not that I would disagree with what you said above, g but what
if the plane the pilot wants to take the test in does not have a
VOR reciever in it? Can that plane be used, or do you have to
find a different plane to take the test in?

I never had seen that question asked or answered around here
before.

I don't know the practical test standard has the part in it about
showing the skills to use electronic navigation. While any of the
requirements could be met with any number of systems, ADF, VOR,
GPS, Loran. I have not a clue as to how you would do it in say a
Cub that didn't have any.

I fly with a student in a C-170B, that has an ADF and a GPS
only. He
needs to show that he can track a bearing based on electronic
navigation. No VOR, no Problem.

Al G



That's the question though Al. What if that C-170B had neither an
ADF or a GPS.


I used to teach in J-3s and we had to check the students out in a
Cesna 170 or a 150 before sending them off for their check rides so
they could do a little hood time, night time and radio time. they did
them in one of those two airplanes as well.


Bertie

The practical test standards require that you show navigation by
electronic aids.
You would have to use an aircraft that had one, bring one along, or
install it. You could probably rent an aircraft for that part of the
checkride only, but again, you would have to be legal in it.


Mmm, exactly.

Bertie