About Stall Psychology and Pilots

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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You're right. Power on stalls have a natural tendency to make newbies more
nervous than power off. The nose attitude is generally higher, it's louder,
(this is a factor BTW), the break is cleaner and more sudden, and the
recovery can seem hurried to a newbie who is experiencing the recovery
under stress.

Are you familiar with what Derrik Piggott has written about some peoples
sensitivity to reduced G forces? It used to be on-line but I can't find a
copy anymore.

But his theory is that some people react very poorly to reduced G and will
can attempt to "brace" themself to avoid falling which can result in an
accident when stalling at a low altitude...

I'll have to keep looking - it was an interesting read for me since my
youngest just HATES even things like elevators or driving over a bit of a
hill (reduced G situations)

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Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
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Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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You're right. Power on stalls have a natural tendency to make newbies
more nervous than power off. The nose attitude is generally higher,
it's louder, (this is a factor BTW), the break is cleaner and more
sudden, and the recovery can seem hurried to a newbie who is
experiencing the recovery under stress.

Are you familiar with what Derrik Piggott has written about some peoples
sensitivity to reduced G forces? It used to be on-line but I can't find
a copy anymore.

But his theory is that some people react very poorly to reduced G and
will can attempt to "brace" themself to avoid falling which can result
in an accident when stalling at a low altitude...

I'll have to keep looking - it was an interesting read for me since my
youngest just HATES even things like elevators or driving over a bit of
a hill (reduced G situations)

Haven't seen this specific report, but the symptom is a common one and
something every good instructor feels out carefully in the beginning
stages of a newbies training.
I've often said to new CFI's that probably the most important time they
will ever spend with a new student is in that first few hours of
exposure with that student. It's during this time the instructor has to
evaluate exactly how he/she will interface with that specific student,
and also during the first hour of dual, just where a specific student is
comfort wise in the airplane.
Instructors who fail to make these assessments do great harm to
themselves AND their students.


--
Dudley Henriques

Are you familiar with what Derrik Piggott has written about some peoples
sensitivity to reduced G forces? It used to be on-line but I can't find
a copy anymore.


I haven't heard of this study but will suggest a technique recommended
by an instructor who was also a downhill skiier -- instead of tensing
up and "backing away" from the "fall", lean forward and go with it.

As Dudley said, prepare for it in your head. The physical corollary is
to lean forward a tiny bit.

Try it next time you're on a roller coaster.

Dan

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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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You're right. Power on stalls have a natural tendency to make newbies
more nervous than power off. The nose attitude is generally higher, it's
louder, (this is a factor BTW), the break is cleaner and more sudden, and
the recovery can seem hurried to a newbie who is experiencing the
recovery under stress.

Are you familiar with what Derrik Piggott has written about some peoples
sensitivity to reduced G forces? It used to be on-line but I can't find a
copy anymore.

But his theory is that some people react very poorly to reduced G and will
can attempt to "brace" themself to avoid falling which can result in an
accident when stalling at a low altitude...

I'll have to keep looking - it was an interesting read for me since my
youngest just HATES even things like elevators or driving over a bit of a
hill (reduced G situations)

--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

I think that Google found it for me and the spelling of the author's first
name is Derek The article is at:
http://www.danlj.org/~danlj/Soaring/Clues/SDO.html

Peter

I think that Google found it for me and the spelling of the author's first
name is Derek *The article is at:http://www.danlj.org/~danlj/Soaring/Clues/SDO.html

Peter-

Wow, this is excellent. Thanks!

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I think that Google found it for me and the spelling of the author's first
name is Derek The article is
at:http://www.danlj.org/~danlj/Soaring/Clues/SDO.html

Peter-

Wow, this is excellent. Thanks!

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Well, I printed it out and read it and it was a great article. But, about
three quarters of the way through it, I found that it was not the originally
requested treatise, which I could only find offered in printed form. That
one appears to be: "Sub-gravity Sensations and Gliding Accidents" 1994 by
Derek Piggott, and is available from the Soaring Society of America amoung
other places.

Peter