About Stall Psychology and Pilots

Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Ken S. Tucker wrote:
On Feb 16, 2:08 pm, "Private" wrote:
"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in

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As much as I like the "dud" his post is the
most completely idiotic thing I had to read.
On Feb 16, 12:10 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
It's interesting to note that although stall recovery should be
thought of as something done with a minimum loss of altitude, the
emphasis on recovery should always be placed on the regaining of
angle of attack as PRIME to recovery.
NUTZ. You need airspeed, it's called kinetic
energy that is needed to suck off, using the
wings (you know, those little things that
protude out the side of airplanes).
I am one instructor who strongly believes that instructors should
consider altering their approach to teaching stall to focus more
strongly on recovering angle of attack than recovering in minimum
altitude.
See KIAS, Dud, you'd last 2 minutes in the RHS
of my plane, after that you'd be lickin' pavement,
from my shoe on your ass.
Stalls entered at low altitude have many times resulted in
secondary stall entry or a mushed recovery followed by ground
impact by pilots who COULD have lowered the nose and held it down
there a bit longer than they did, using the air under them to
better advantage and giving themselves the needed time to regain
angle of attack and smooth airflow as they attempted a recovery.
But because they had been taught that ALTITUDE rather than AOA was
the killer, they recovered trying to save altitude, when in
reality what was needed was to USE THE AVAILABLE ALTITUDE
CORRECTLY....and save the airplane. Toward this goal, I strongly
encourage all CFI's to reference AOA in stall recovery. This
doesn't mean INSTEAD of altitude, but it does mean that to recover
the airplane, you absolutely HAVE to restore AOA, and at low
altitude that might very well mean using available altitude to the
last foot of air to do that.
I have always taught stall recovery both with and without power.
The FAA requires power. I want the student to see the difference
and at the same time be able to stress that it's the ANGLE OF
ATTACK that saves your butt. The strong lesson here is that you
USE altitude......you don't try to minimize it at the expense of
angle of attack.
Dud, you're clueless, you have not a clue about KIAS,
spiral dives or g-force recovery's. In short I see NO
evidence you have even been in an airplane with your
focus on AoA.
I can get a good AoA at 10 KIAS or 200 KIAS,
what are going to do?
Regards
Ken
Ken,
With respect, I think you must have missed my reply in another
thread. I am enclosing it here for your convenience and
consideration.

"Private" wrote in message

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"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in message

om...
I was out paying taxes, to get some coin for the
piggy bank, I shook it 3 times and still didn't hear
any rattling, that's simple accounting to tell me
when I'm broke, works every time!
Ken
Some here would suggest that you apply the same strategy to your
head before
posting.
I am somewhat embarrassed to be entering this thread, but I just
can't resist swinging at a soft pitch like that.
Happy landings,
To elaborate, my suggestion was that before posting you should give
your head a shake to determine if there is anything inside and to
consider whether you really wished to make the fact public.
Happy landings,

If I were you, I'd ****-off and read.
You're swinging at screw-balls...
Me and the "dud" ****ed your mush mind.
Get a ****in life, crack a book.

Best Regards
Ken
xxxx

Just for the record, and on the off chance that there might just be
one person on Usenet who needs to be informed of this, please be
advised that regardless of what this idiot says and when he uses my
name in his posts; I am in NO way even remotely involved with this
character in any way whatsoever.



It should be obvious that Ken always puts the "S" between "Ken" and
"Tucker" to emphasize to everyone that he is a total ****HEAD!

Benjamin Dover wrote in
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It should be obvious that Ken always puts the "S" between
"Ken" and
"Tucker" to emphasize to everyone that he is a total ****HEAD!


Hmm, his parents must have been real disappointed in him to do that.



Bertie

On Feb 16, 5:30 pm, Benjamin Dover wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote :
....
Just for the record, and on the off chance that there might just be
one person on Usenet who needs to be informed of this, please be
advised that regardless of what this idiot says and when he uses my
name in his posts; I am in NO way even remotely involved with this
character in any way whatsoever.

Well, that's true. Are we supposed to put AoA meters
on all control surfaces, such as Elevators, Ailerons,
Rudder, Flaps or just the main wing?
Dud, have you ever heard of a *stall warning audio
annunciator*?
In sims I've installed an AoA meter, it's basically
an aerodynamic curiousity.

It should be obvious that Ken always puts the "S" between "Ken" and
"Tucker" to emphasize to everyone that he is a total ****HEAD!

Well Mr. BenDover snicker, you seem to have
a curiousity about what's in other peoples asses,
so you're a queer, not that there's anything wrong
with that, but most people wouldn't want to spend
too much time in a cockpit with you, except Bertie,
butt that's a given.

OK, back to aerodynamics.
Ken

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in
:

On Feb 16, 5:30 pm, Benjamin Dover wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote
:
...
Just for the record, and on the off chance that there might just be
one person on Usenet who needs to be informed of this, please be
advised that regardless of what this idiot says and when he uses my
name in his posts; I am in NO way even remotely involved with this
character in any way whatsoever.

Well, that's true. Are we supposed to put AoA meters
on all control surfaces, such as Elevators, Ailerons,
Rudder, Flaps or just the main wing?


And the cluelessness continues.


Dud, have you ever heard of a *stall warning audio
annunciator*?

Jees, I haven't tel us how they work Kenny!


In sims I've installed an AoA meter, it's basically
an aerodynamic curiousity.

It should be obvious that Ken always puts the "S" between
"Ken" and
"Tucker" to emphasize to everyone that he is a total ****HEAD!

Well Mr. BenDover snicker, you seem to have
a curiousity about what's in other peoples asses,
so you're a queer, not that there's anything wrong
with that, but most people wouldn't want to spend
too much time in a cockpit with you, except Bertie,
butt that's a given.

OK, back to aerodynamics


God I love usenet


Bertie

On Feb 17, 9:44 am, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:

Well, that's true. Are we supposed to put AoA meters
on all control surfaces, such as Elevators, Ailerons,
Rudder, Flaps or just the main wing?
Dud, have you ever heard of a *stall warning audio
annunciator*?
In sims I've installed an AoA meter, it's basically
an aerodynamic curiousity.

In a sim it's not aerodynamic. It's an electronic illusion.
And it won't mean much to the simmer who has little understanding of
AOA, never mind boundary layer control, stagnation points, stalls,
accelerated stalls, stall progression, leading edge radii, and the
like. BTW, "curiousity" is spelled "curiosity." And the "main wing" is
known among real pilots simply as the "wing."
We don't need AOA indicators on control surfaces. All control
surface travels have well-defined legal limits as per the TCDS for any
airplane, and those travels are there to prevent their stalling. Those
things are, after all, just part of the larger surface to which
they're attached such as the wing, fin (or vertical stab), or
(horizontal) stabilizer. It's important to prevent any of those from
stalling, and limiting control surface travel is the way to do it.
You just discredit yourself immensely when you take a dig at a
guy like Dudley. Or at just about anyone else here, for that matter.

OK, back to aerodynamics.

Back to simming, you mean.

Dan

On Feb 17, 12:39 pm, wrote:
On Feb 17, 9:44 am, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:

Well, that's true. Are we supposed to put AoA meters
on all control surfaces, such as Elevators, Ailerons,
Rudder, Flaps or just the main wing?
Dud, have you ever heard of a *stall warning audio
annunciator*?
In sims I've installed an AoA meter, it's basically
an aerodynamic curiousity.

In a sim it's not aerodynamic. It's an electronic illusion.
And it won't mean much to the simmer who has little understanding of
AOA, never mind boundary layer control, stagnation points, stalls,
accelerated stalls, stall progression, leading edge radii, and the
like. BTW, "curiousity" is spelled "curiosity." And the "main wing" is
known among real pilots simply as the "wing."

" We don't need AOA indicators on control surfaces. "

Well Dan, try telling that to the "dud".
He's the genoius who want's them deployed
all over you body, sounds like a govmonker
trying to tell REAL pilots how to fly.
Like I said, most of the posters in this group
have never flown, I can tell, "dud", "bertie"
and a few others are total fakes.

All control
surface travels have well-defined legal limits as per the TCDS for any
airplane, and those travels are there to prevent their stalling. Those
things are, after all, just part of the larger surface to which
they're attached such as the wing, fin (or vertical stab), or
(horizontal) stabilizer. It's important to prevent any of those from
stalling, and limiting control surface travel is the way to do it.
You just discredit yourself immensely when you take a dig at a
guy like Dudley. Or at just about anyone else here, for that matter.

OK, back to aerodynamics.

Back to simming, you mean.

Nothing wrong with siming a low altidude recovery,
dude. It's cheaper to crash and burn in a sim than
to ****-up reallllllllly.

Dan

Regards
Two weeks to fly day....Yahooo
Ken

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in news:fdb73a60-ea0c-
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On Feb 17, 12:39 pm, wrote:
On Feb 17, 9:44 am, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:

Well, that's true. Are we supposed to put AoA meters
on all control surfaces, such as Elevators, Ailerons,
Rudder, Flaps or just the main wing?
Dud, have you ever heard of a *stall warning audio
annunciator*?
In sims I've installed an AoA meter, it's basically
an aerodynamic curiousity.

In a sim it's not aerodynamic. It's an electronic illusion.
And it won't mean much to the simmer who has little understanding of
AOA, never mind boundary layer control, stagnation points, stalls,
accelerated stalls, stall progression, leading edge radii, and the
like. BTW, "curiousity" is spelled "curiosity." And the "main wing"
is
known among real pilots simply as the "wing."

" We don't need AOA indicators on control surfaces. "

Well Dan, try telling that to the "dud".
He's the genoius who want's them deployed
all over you body, sounds like a govmonker
trying to tell REAL pilots how to fly.
Like I said, most of the posters in this group
have never flown, I can tell, "dud", "bertie"
and a few others are total fakes.


Yeah, it's obvious isn't it?




Nothing wrong with siming a low altidude recovery,
dude. It's cheaper to crash and burn in a sim than
to ****-up reallllllllly.


Go to it trailer trash!

Bertie

"Ken ****head Tucker" wrote in news:fdb73a60-ea0c-
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[Mindless drivel snipped]

You and MXSmoron would make a perfect cockpit crew. Would probably
set the Guiness record for fastest **** up while attempting flight.

On Feb 17, 1:09 pm, Benjamin Dover wrote:
"Ken ****head Tucker" wrote in news:fdb73a60-ea0c-
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[Mindless drivel snipped]

You and MXSmoron would make a perfect cockpit crew. Would probably
set the Guiness record for fastest **** up while attempting flight.

Look you ****ING QUEER, "BenDover"
I don't like you're type of people.
So ****-OFF
Ken

"Ken ****head Tucker" wrote in
:

On Feb 17, 1:09 pm, Benjamin Dover wrote:
"Ken ****head Tucker" wrote in
news:fdb73a60-ea0c-
:

[Mindless drivel snipped]

You and MXSmoron would make a perfect cockpit crew. Would
probably
set the Guiness record for fastest **** up while attempting flight.

Look you ****ING QUEER, "BenDover"
I don't like you're type of people.
So ****-OFF
Ken


Does your mommy know what you are doing on your computer?

Does she know that you use your computer to jerk off? Or do you get
together with MXSmoron and jerk each other off?

You still don't know **** about aerodynamics.