About Stall Psychology and Pilots

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:30:49 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

I noticed that ex-navy guys
never stepped on the ball, they moved the stick in the direction the ball
needed to go. I asked one about this and he told me that's what you do to
co-ordinate! Interesting. It works just as well and unless you're making a
gross correction you'd never notice the difference. I guess it comes from a
naval notion of the rudder being the primary control or something..

Holy ****, I thought it was me and my newbieness. I am working NAS JAX and
spending time with the NAS and I get the same conversations.

I think.
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On Feb 17, 8:19 pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:30:49 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
I noticed that ex-navy guys
never stepped on the ball, they moved the stick in the direction the ball
needed to go. I asked one about this and he told me that's what you do to
co-ordinate! Interesting. It works just as well and unless you're making a
gross correction you'd never notice the difference. I guess it comes from a
naval notion of the rudder being the primary control or something..

Holy ****, I thought it was me and my newbieness. I am working NAS JAX and
spending time with the NAS and I get the same conversations.
I think.

My Instructor Pilot "balled" me out on that too (pun
intended), he pointed out my turns were not properly
coordinated because the ball went off center.
Well the SOB aka IP (good fella all the way) explains
that passengers have drinks on their little tables and
a coordinated turn keeps them level, and won't spill!

So he takes his plastic water bottle and sets it on his
clip board that is even on his lap, then orders up some
coordinated turns...10 , 20 , 30 degree banks, I thought
that was a good lesson.
Ken

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in
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On Feb 17, 8:19 pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:30:49 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
I noticed that ex-navy guys
never stepped on the ball, they moved the stick in the direction
the ball needed to go. I asked one about this and he told me that's
what you do to co-ordinate! Interesting. It works just as well and
unless you're making a gross correction you'd never notice the
difference. I guess it comes from a naval notion of the rudder
being the primary control or something..

Holy ****, I thought it was me and my newbieness. I am working NAS
JAX and spending time with the NAS and I get the same conversations.
I think.

My Instructor Pilot "balled" me out on that too (pun
intended), he pointed out my turns were not properly
coordinated because the ball went off center.
Well the SOB aka IP (good fella all the way) explains
that passengers have drinks on their little tables and
a coordinated turn keeps them level, and won't spill!

So he takes his plastic water bottle and sets it on his
clip board that is even on his lap, then orders up some
coordinated turns...10 , 20 , 30 degree banks, I thought
that was a good lesson.


What about the water on your brain, Ken? Did that stay level?


Bertie

WJRFlyBoy wrote in
:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:30:49 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

I noticed that ex-navy guys
never stepped on the ball, they moved the stick in the direction the
ball needed to go. I asked one about this and he told me that's what
you do to co-ordinate! Interesting. It works just as well and unless
you're making a gross correction you'd never notice the difference. I
guess it comes from a naval notion of the rudder being the primary
control or something..

Holy ****, I thought it was me and my newbieness. I am working NAS JAX
and spending time with the NAS and I get the same conversations.



No reason why it wouldn't work just as well! As long as you're co-
ordinated.


Bertie

On Feb 18, 5:45*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WJRFlyBoy wrote :

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:30:49 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

I noticed that ex-navy guys
never stepped on the ball, they moved the stick in the direction the
ball needed to go. I asked one about this and he told me that's what
you do to co-ordinate! Interesting. It works just as well and unless
you're making a gross correction you'd never notice the difference. I
guess it comes from a *naval notion of the rudder being the primary
control or something..

Holy ****, I thought it was me and my newbieness. I am working NAS JAX
and spending time with the NAS and I get the same conversations.

No reason why it wouldn't work just as well! As long as you're co-
ordinated.


I hadn't thought of that, but how would you line up with a x-wind for
landing... Is it that the undercarts are so strong they really don
care that much?

Cheers

WingFlaps wrote in
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On Feb 18, 5:45*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WJRFlyBoy wrote
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:30:49 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

I noticed that ex-navy guys
never stepped on the ball, they moved the stick in the direction
the ball needed to go. I asked one about this and he told me
that's what you do to co-ordinate! Interesting. It works just as
well and unless you're making a gross correction you'd never
notice the difference. I guess it comes from a *naval notion of
the rudder being the primary control or something..

Holy ****, I thought it was me and my newbieness. I am working NAS
JAX and spending time with the NAS and I get the same
conversations.

No reason why it wouldn't work just as well! As long as you're co-
ordinated.


I hadn't thought of that, but how would you line up with a x-wind for
landing... Is it that the undercarts are so strong they really don
care that much?


They just do this to center the ball. It's a six of one, half dozen of the
other type of thing. Nothing to do with crossing the controls for a
landing. Presumably they do that the same way as anyone else.


Bertie