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On Feb 22, 10:20 am, "gatt" wrote:
"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in ... Yangooooo.....listen.... Then nudge yoke foward. If the landing is super Why would you have to "nudge" the yoke forward unless you're carrying too much airspeed? In a proper Cessna 152 landing, you're pulling the yoke back as you bleed off airspeed in order to ease the nosewheel down. There's no forward nudging. The nose is going to come down eventually no matter what. Previously you wrote: At the moment before touch-down push the yoke easy forward and I do a 3 point landing That puts undue stress on the nosewheel, especially in a soft-terrain environment. Published procedure is to hold the nosewheel off for as long as possible (which is done by pulling back on the yoke) and ease it to the ground as gently as possible. FWIW, I definitely agree, I'm talking about hitting pavement. It's the ground-effect that can keep the plane floating, that is a mysterious effect (not really well understood) that does happen at landings, but can be used to advantage, if you're not a *fraidy cat*. Once the rolling air from ground effect is achieved, a new dynamic is effective. Of course that "rolling air" needs AoA to be maintained, so nudging forward kills the "ground effect" and you're very near a 3 point landing. Maybe you guys want to analyse "ground effect lift". Ken |
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Ken S. Tucker wrote:
On Feb 22, 10:20 am, "gatt" wrote: "Ken S. Tucker" wrote in ... Yangooooo.....listen.... Then nudge yoke foward. If the landing is super Why would you have to "nudge" the yoke forward unless you're carrying too much airspeed? In a proper Cessna 152 landing, you're pulling the yoke back as you bleed off airspeed in order to ease the nosewheel down. There's no forward nudging. The nose is going to come down eventually no matter what. Previously you wrote: At the moment before touch-down push the yoke easy forward and I do a 3 point landing That puts undue stress on the nosewheel, especially in a soft-terrain environment. Published procedure is to hold the nosewheel off for as long as possible (which is done by pulling back on the yoke) and ease it to the ground as gently as possible. FWIW, I definitely agree, I'm talking about hitting pavement. It's the ground-effect that can keep the plane floating, that is a mysterious effect (not really well understood) that does happen at landings, but can be used to advantage, if you're not a *fraidy cat*. Once the rolling air from ground effect is achieved, a new dynamic is effective. Of course that "rolling air" needs AoA to be maintained, so nudging forward kills the "ground effect" and you're very near a 3 point landing. Maybe you guys want to analyse "ground effect lift". Ken Good Grief!! I swear you're turning me into Charlie Brown, Ken. :-) -- Dudley Henriques |
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"Ken ****head Tucker" wrote in
: FWIW, I definitely agree, I'm talking about hitting pavement. It's the ground-effect that can keep the plane floating, that is a mysterious effect (not really well understood) that does happen at landings, but can be used to advantage, if you're not a *fraidy cat*. Once the rolling air from ground effect is achieved, a new dynamic is effective. Of course that "rolling air" needs AoA to be maintained, so nudging forward kills the "ground effect" and you're very near a 3 point landing. Maybe you guys want to analyse "ground effect lift". Ken YOU don't know **** from Shineola when it comes to ground effect. |
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Benjamin Dover writes:
YOU don't know **** from Shineola when it comes to ground effect. Since neither has anything to do with ground effect, why would that be a problem? |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: Benjamin Dover writes: YOU don't know **** from Shineola when it comes to ground effect. Since neither has anything to do with ground effect, why would that be a problem? You'll never fly so you'll never know. Bertie |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Benjamin Dover writes: YOU don't know **** from Shineola when it comes to ground effect. Since neither has anything to do with ground effect, why would that be a problem? My god you are ignorant. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: writes: My god you are ignorant. That's a terrible thing to say about your deity. Do you actually think you're going to convince anyone that you have a sense of humor, tard-o-mat? Bertie |
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