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Old February 22nd 08, 09:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ken S. Tucker
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On Feb 22, 10:20 am, "gatt" wrote:
"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in ...

Yangooooo.....listen....


Then nudge yoke foward. If the landing is super


Why would you have to "nudge" the yoke forward unless you're carrying too
much airspeed? In a proper Cessna 152 landing, you're pulling the yoke
back as you bleed off airspeed in order to ease the nosewheel down. There's
no forward nudging. The nose is going to come down eventually no matter
what.

Previously you wrote:
At the moment before touch-down push the yoke easy forward and I do a 3
point landing


That puts undue stress on the nosewheel, especially in a soft-terrain
environment. Published procedure is to hold the nosewheel off for as long
as possible (which is done by pulling back on the yoke) and ease it to the
ground as gently as possible.


FWIW, I definitely agree, I'm talking about hitting pavement.
It's the ground-effect that can keep the plane floating, that
is a mysterious effect (not really well understood) that does
happen at landings, but can be used to advantage, if you're
not a *fraidy cat*.
Once the rolling air from ground effect is achieved, a new
dynamic is effective. Of course that "rolling air" needs AoA
to be maintained, so nudging forward kills the "ground effect"
and you're very near a 3 point landing.
Maybe you guys want to analyse "ground effect lift".
Ken
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Old February 22nd 08, 09:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Ken S. Tucker wrote:
On Feb 22, 10:20 am, "gatt" wrote:
"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in ...

Yangooooo.....listen....
Then nudge yoke foward. If the landing is super

Why would you have to "nudge" the yoke forward unless you're carrying too
much airspeed? In a proper Cessna 152 landing, you're pulling the yoke
back as you bleed off airspeed in order to ease the nosewheel down. There's
no forward nudging. The nose is going to come down eventually no matter
what.

Previously you wrote:
At the moment before touch-down push the yoke easy forward and I do a 3
point landing

That puts undue stress on the nosewheel, especially in a soft-terrain
environment. Published procedure is to hold the nosewheel off for as long
as possible (which is done by pulling back on the yoke) and ease it to the
ground as gently as possible.


FWIW, I definitely agree, I'm talking about hitting pavement.
It's the ground-effect that can keep the plane floating, that
is a mysterious effect (not really well understood) that does
happen at landings, but can be used to advantage, if you're
not a *fraidy cat*.
Once the rolling air from ground effect is achieved, a new
dynamic is effective. Of course that "rolling air" needs AoA
to be maintained, so nudging forward kills the "ground effect"
and you're very near a 3 point landing.
Maybe you guys want to analyse "ground effect lift".
Ken


Good Grief!!

I swear you're turning me into Charlie Brown, Ken.
:-)

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Old February 22nd 08, 09:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Benjamin Dover
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"Ken ****head Tucker" wrote in
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FWIW, I definitely agree, I'm talking about hitting pavement.
It's the ground-effect that can keep the plane floating, that
is a mysterious effect (not really well understood) that does
happen at landings, but can be used to advantage, if you're
not a *fraidy cat*.
Once the rolling air from ground effect is achieved, a new
dynamic is effective. Of course that "rolling air" needs AoA
to be maintained, so nudging forward kills the "ground effect"
and you're very near a 3 point landing.
Maybe you guys want to analyse "ground effect lift".
Ken



YOU don't know **** from Shineola when it comes to ground effect.
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Old February 22nd 08, 11:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Benjamin Dover writes:

YOU don't know **** from Shineola when it comes to ground effect.


Since neither has anything to do with ground effect, why would that be a
problem?
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Old February 22nd 08, 11:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Benjamin Dover writes:

YOU don't know **** from Shineola when it comes to ground effect.


Since neither has anything to do with ground effect, why would that be a
problem?



You'll never fly so you'll never know.


Bertie

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Old February 23rd 08, 12:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Benjamin Dover writes:


YOU don't know **** from Shineola when it comes to ground effect.


Since neither has anything to do with ground effect, why would that be a
problem?


My god you are ignorant.


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Old February 23rd 08, 03:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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My god you are ignorant.


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