(USA) NTSB issues recommendations to the FAA and the SSA regarding transponder use in gliders

On Apr 2, 1:03*pm, "Tim Mara" wrote:
precisely why I do recommend PCAS and do not always recommend
transponders....
the PCAS more or less tell you to "look out"...the transponder by nature of
it's apparent shield of protection can leave you feeling pretty secure that
someone else is "looking out" for you..
tim

"Darryl Ramm" wrote in message

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On Apr 2, 8:09 am, "Tim Mara" wrote:
Tim

I do fly in high traffic density areas (with transponder and PCAS and
talking to ATC when appropriate) and know many other pilots that also
at least have a transponder in their ship and none that I know have
this naive view of transponders and safety bubbles. If anything the
fact that they have a transponder in their glider, tends to be
correlated with an awareness of traffic, ATC, etc. and I suspect if
anything these folks are more likely to have their heads outside the
cockpit. And since many of those same pilots also fly with PCAS I can
guarantee they understand the need to be looking outside.

I am glad you can "Guarantee" this.....that makes it a lot easier
tim

I know of many light aircraft flying with PCAS (Zaon) and a few (new
expensive ones) with the Avidyne/Ryan system that is between PCAS and
TCAS.

Darryl

Tim you are welcome. :-) But if I do ever meet anybody flying with
PCAS who does not admit after a while there was *lot more traffic out
there than they thought I'll be sure to let you know.

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I humbly submit that two PCAS-equipped aircraft have no protection
unless at least one has a transponder!
Tom

On Apr 2, 1:22*pm, Tom Nau wrote:
On Apr 2, 1:03*pm, "Tim Mara" wrote:





precisely why I do recommend PCAS and do not always recommend
transponders....
the PCAS more or less tell you to "look out"...the transponder by nature of
it's apparent shield of protection can leave you feeling pretty secure that
someone else is "looking out" for you..
tim

"Darryl Ramm" wrote in message

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On Apr 2, 8:09 am, "Tim Mara" wrote:
Tim

I do fly in high traffic density areas (with transponder and PCAS and
talking to ATC when appropriate) and know many other pilots that also
at least have a transponder in their ship and none that I know have
this naive view of transponders and safety bubbles. If anything the
fact that they have a transponder in their glider, tends to be
correlated with an awareness of traffic, ATC, etc. and I suspect if
anything these folks are more likely to have their heads outside the
cockpit. And since many of those same pilots also fly with PCAS I can
guarantee they understand the need to be looking outside.

I am glad you can "Guarantee" this.....that makes it a lot easier
tim

I know of many light aircraft flying with PCAS (Zaon) and a few (new
expensive ones) with the Avidyne/Ryan system that is between PCAS and
TCAS.

Darryl

Tim you are welcome. :-) But if I do ever meet anybody flying with
PCAS who does not admit after a while there was *lot more traffic out
there than they thought I'll be sure to let you know.

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I humbly submit that two PCAS-equipped aircraft have no protection
unless at least one has a transponder!
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What we need is a combination PCAS/FLARM/Transponder...

Kirk 66

kirk.stant wrote:
What we need is a combination PCAS/FLARM/Transponder...

It's called "ADS-B". Seriously, at the SSA convention, a representative
from MITRE showed a proof of concept cigarette pack size ADS-B UAT
transmitter that is powered by 2 AA batteries. It is currently
undergoing flight testing on the east coast. Constructed primarily
using about $150 worth of cellphone RF components, the estimated retail
cost if produced would be $750 to $1000, and MITRE is willing to license
the design for a nominal cost. A transceiver is currently on the
drawing board. The major problem with this device is that it uses a
consumer GPS receiver module, and the FAA has apparently not given much
thought to the idea of VFR-only ADS-B devices, instead assuming that
everyone will be using certified GPS units at $3000 or so a pop.
Efforts are being made to counter this assumption, hopefully there will
be news on this front in a few months...

Marc