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Old August 15th 08, 08:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Marco,

so I never see their threads and most related
content.


Yes, but the problem is that there's not much left after that.

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

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Old August 15th 08, 09:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Marco Leon[_5_]
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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Marco,
so I never see their threads and most related
content.


Yes, but the problem is that there's not much left after that.


Absolutely true. Maybe the group needs a "vacation" where the trolls get
bored and move on to other groups for their trolling pleasure. Then the
value-add folks might slowly come back and the group might experience a
rebirth of activity. There must be some eco-system principles at work here.

Marco


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Old August 16th 08, 04:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck[_2_]
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Absolutely true. Maybe the group needs a "vacation" where the trolls get
bored and move on to other groups for their trolling pleasure. Then the
value-add folks might slowly come back and the group might experience a
rebirth of activity. There must be some eco-system principles at work
here.


Sadly, I've seen precisely this happen with Bertie here recently. When it's
apparent that he's completely killed the group, he goes into hibernation, or
(more diabolically) enters one of his more constructive phases where he
actually discusses aviation.

Right now he's noticeably absent, in case you haven't noticed. Either that
or NO ONE is responding to him, which seems unlikely.

His absence slowly lures people back into the newsgroup fold. Once some
number of users (known only to Bertie) have jumped back in the group, he
then resumes his inane 3-word personal attacks. His evil twin, Maxwell,
follows suit shortly thereafter.

It's disgustingly predictable, and kill files only cure half the problem.
(The other half being all the people who respond to their inane, 3-word
personal attack posts...)

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: This group would still be
thriving with TEN "MX-style" posters actively participating. But all it
took was two "Bertie-style" trolls to swiftly and efficiently kill it.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
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Ercoupe N94856
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old August 16th 08, 05:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
george
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On Aug 16, 3:46 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: This group would still be
thriving with TEN "MX-style" posters actively participating. But all it
took was two "Bertie-style" trolls to swiftly and efficiently kill it.


The group hasn't been killed.
Some posters do not suffer fools gladly and are only to happy to
demonstrate the fact.
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Old August 16th 08, 10:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Martin Hotze[_2_]
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Jay Honeck schrieb:
It's disgustingly predictable, and kill files only cure half the problem.
(The other half being all the people who respond to their inane, 3-word
personal attack posts...)


then killfile them, too.
here about 50% or more of all postings are wiped out by the killfile.

#m
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Old August 16th 08, 02:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck[_2_]
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then killfile them, too.
here about 50% or more of all postings are wiped out by the killfile.


I was here for ten years without needing a killfile. Now, the solution is
to killfile dozens of posters?

That illustrates just how far this group has fallen, Martin. How sad. IMHO
it's better to learn an awkward interface than to put up with this.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
Ercoupe N94856
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old August 16th 08, 02:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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In article FqApk.245644$TT4.98287@attbi_s22,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

it's better to learn an awkward interface than to put up with this.


It would be even better to improve the lousy interface (but I'm not
holding my breath)

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

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Old August 16th 08, 03:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:FqApk.245644$TT4.98287@attbi_s22:

then killfile them, too.
here about 50% or more of all postings are wiped out by the killfile.


I was here for ten years without needing a killfile. Now, the
solution is to killfile dozens of posters?

That illustrates just how far this group has fallen, Martin. How sad.
IMHO it's better to learn an awkward interface than to put up with
this.


Run awya! run away!


Bertie
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Old August 16th 08, 03:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Martin Hotze[_2_]
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Jay Honeck schrieb:
then killfile them, too.
here about 50% or more of all postings are wiped out by the killfile.


I was here for ten years without needing a killfile. Now, the solution is
to killfile dozens of posters?


now, that's life IMHO. 20 years ago you might also have not locked your
front door, nowadays you'll probably lock up.

That illustrates just how far this group has fallen, Martin. How sad. IMHO
it's better to learn an awkward interface than to put up with this.


First it is good to use a newsserver that filters out the obvious crap
(EMP - excessive multiposts, HTML, binaries, ...), then you finetune to
what you seem appropriate using your killfile. Most likely you get rid
of 20% or more of the crap filtering out those postings coming in via
googlegroups, then it *might* also be a good idea filtering those using
a gmail-account.

#m
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Old August 16th 08, 03:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Martin Hotze wrote:
Jay Honeck schrieb:
then killfile them, too.
here about 50% or more of all postings are wiped out by the killfile.


I was here for ten years without needing a killfile. Now, the
solution is to killfile dozens of posters?


now, that's life IMHO. 20 years ago you might also have not locked your
front door, nowadays you'll probably lock up.

That illustrates just how far this group has fallen, Martin. How
sad. IMHO it's better to learn an awkward interface than to put up
with this.


First it is good to use a newsserver that filters out the obvious crap
(EMP - excessive multiposts, HTML, binaries, ...), then you finetune to
what you seem appropriate using your killfile. Most likely you get rid
of 20% or more of the crap filtering out those postings coming in via
googlegroups, then it *might* also be a good idea filtering those using
a gmail-account.

#m

The trouble with you is that you like lecturing people so much on these
forums you don't follow your own advice. For example, you have never
once since I've been on this forum, posted an aviation related post to
me, but you are a constant source of lecturing on how dis-satisfied you
are with my performance on the forum.
I would think that you, in your "infinite wisdom", would have kill filed
me a long time ago, but you haven't have you?
You sir, are simply one more part of the Usenet problem, not a solution :-)

--
Dudley Henriques
 




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