Let's move on

Jay Honeck schrieb:
then killfile them, too.
here about 50% or more of all postings are wiped out by the killfile.

I was here for ten years without needing a killfile. Now, the solution is
to killfile dozens of posters?

now, that's life IMHO. 20 years ago you might also have not locked your
front door, nowadays you'll probably lock up.

That illustrates just how far this group has fallen, Martin. How sad. IMHO
it's better to learn an awkward interface than to put up with this.

First it is good to use a newsserver that filters out the obvious crap
(EMP - excessive multiposts, HTML, binaries, ...), then you finetune to
what you seem appropriate using your killfile. Most likely you get rid
of 20% or more of the crap filtering out those postings coming in via
googlegroups, then it *might* also be a good idea filtering those using
a gmail-account.

#m

Martin Hotze wrote:
Jay Honeck schrieb:
then killfile them, too.
here about 50% or more of all postings are wiped out by the killfile.

I was here for ten years without needing a killfile. Now, the
solution is to killfile dozens of posters?

now, that's life IMHO. 20 years ago you might also have not locked your
front door, nowadays you'll probably lock up.

That illustrates just how far this group has fallen, Martin. How
sad. IMHO it's better to learn an awkward interface than to put up
with this.

First it is good to use a newsserver that filters out the obvious crap
(EMP - excessive multiposts, HTML, binaries, ...), then you finetune to
what you seem appropriate using your killfile. Most likely you get rid
of 20% or more of the crap filtering out those postings coming in via
googlegroups, then it *might* also be a good idea filtering those using
a gmail-account.

#m
The trouble with you is that you like lecturing people so much on these
forums you don't follow your own advice. For example, you have never
once since I've been on this forum, posted an aviation related post to
me, but you are a constant source of lecturing on how dis-satisfied you
are with my performance on the forum.
I would think that you, in your "infinite wisdom", would have kill filed
me a long time ago, but you haven't have you?
You sir, are simply one more part of the Usenet problem, not a solution :-)

--
Dudley Henriques

#m
The trouble with you is that you like lecturing people so much on these
forums you don't follow your own advice. For example, you have never once
since I've been on this forum, posted an aviation related post snip

Martin is an interesting newsgroup character. He never, EVER posts about
aviation, yet he's always here, on a piloting forum. It's kinda weird,
actually, although he can be a decent guy. Just don't bring up the U.S.,
and everything is fine.

And now, for some NAC: BTW, Dudley -- Mary and I flew the 'Coupe to nearby
Muscatine this evening, as a flight of two with friends. It was a gorgeous
summer's eve, flying (with the top down, natch) low and slow over the most
stunning emerald-green landscape you can imagine. After a great dinner we
landed back in Iowa City a few minutes past sunset, with the biggest moon
rising you can imagine.

Total cost: 3.9 gallons of unleaded mogas. Gotta love it!

I tell ya, we've never had so much fun as we've had with this little
Ercoupe...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
Ercoupe N94856
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
#m
The trouble with you is that you like lecturing people so much on
these forums you don't follow your own advice. For example, you have
never once since I've been on this forum, posted an aviation related
post snip

Martin is an interesting newsgroup character. He never, EVER posts
about aviation, yet he's always here, on a piloting forum. It's kinda
weird, actually, although he can be a decent guy. Just don't bring up
the U.S., and everything is fine.

It is strange. He's injected himself in on me before; always with some
"advice" he thinks I need. He might well even be right but I don't play
well with people who do this kind of thing, but no big deal. :-)


And now, for some NAC: BTW, Dudley -- Mary and I flew the 'Coupe to
nearby Muscatine this evening, as a flight of two with friends. It was
a gorgeous summer's eve, flying (with the top down, natch) low and slow
over the most stunning emerald-green landscape you can imagine. After a
great dinner we landed back in Iowa City a few minutes past sunset, with
the biggest moon rising you can imagine.

Total cost: 3.9 gallons of unleaded mogas. Gotta love it!

I tell ya, we've never had so much fun as we've had with this little
Ercoupe...

The old Coupe is a wonderful airplane as I'm sure you have already
learned. It chugs along quite cheerfully on a dime. I have a few hours
in one that we had on the field. It was a lot of fun, sort of like a
car. I'd roll down the side window and just feel the breezes. We flew it
off a hard surface but it behaved a bit better on the grass.
The one thing I recall more than anything else was how low the nose was
when we had to prop it once in a while.

Looks like your son has taken to the bird with no trouble at all. Glad
you guys are getting some relief from the gas prices :-))



--
Dudley

The old Coupe is a wonderful airplane as I'm sure you have already
learned. It chugs along quite cheerfully on a dime. I have a few hours in
one that we had on the field. It was a lot of fun, sort of like a car. I'd
roll down the side window and just feel the breezes. We flew it off a hard
surface but it behaved a bit better on the grass.

I haven't taken it on grass yet, but it lands so easily I expect it'll be
very nice. (Our local grass strip -- one of our favorite places to fly --
is still closed since the flooding in June. Six feet of water killed the
grass, and they're keeping it closed until the turf comes back strong enough
to take the abuse of landings.)

The one thing I recall more than anything else was how low the nose was
when we had to prop it once in a while.

You may be describing a typical problem with 'Coupes. The landing gear
geometry is important, and with age gets "off" as the landing gear donuts
age and sag. This also adversely impacts take-off performance, as it
changes the angle of attack. Our landing gear is brand new, and sits fairly
tall, especially compared to the old, clapped out Ercoupe I flew in back in
Wisconsin.

Of course, it's a tiny airplane, so even "sitting tall" it's pretty low to
the ground. Everything about it is...cute.

Looks like your son has taken to the bird with no trouble at all. Glad you
guys are getting some relief from the gas prices :-))

Yeah, we can pretty much fly the 'Coupe four times a week (or more) for what
it costs to fly Atlas once. Once the weather gets cold, and we're not able
to fly with the top down, I expect we'll not be flying "Sweetie" quite so
much -- but ya gotta make hay while the sun's shining!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
Ercoupe N94856
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:

Yeah, we can pretty much fly the 'Coupe four times a week (or more) for
what it costs to fly Atlas once. Once the weather gets cold, and we're
not able to fly with the top down, I expect we'll not be flying
"Sweetie" quite so much -- but ya gotta make hay while the sun's shining!

Sounds like you might have found the "new" family airplane once you STC
that back seat you've been wishing you had back there :-))))
--
Dudley Henriques

On Aug 17, 9:11 am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
The old Coupe is a wonderful airplane as I'm sure you have already
learned. It chugs along quite cheerfully on a dime. I have a few hours in
one that we had on the field. It was a lot of fun, sort of like a car. I'd
roll down the side window and just feel the breezes. We flew it off a hard
surface but it behaved a bit better on the grass.

I haven't taken it on grass yet, but it lands so easily I expect it'll be
very nice. (Our local grass strip -- one of our favorite places to fly --
is still closed since the flooding in June. Six feet of water killed the
grass, and they're keeping it closed until the turf comes back strong enough
to take the abuse of landings.)

The one thing I recall more than anything else was how low the nose was
when we had to prop it once in a while.

You may be describing a typical problem with 'Coupes. The landing gear
geometry is important, and with age gets "off" as the landing gear donuts
age and sag. This also adversely impacts take-off performance, as it
changes the angle of attack. Our landing gear is brand new, and sits fairly
tall, especially compared to the old, clapped out Ercoupe I flew in back in
Wisconsin.

Of course, it's a tiny airplane, so even "sitting tall" it's pretty low to
the ground. Everything about it is...cute.

Looks like your son has taken to the bird with no trouble at all. Glad you
guys are getting some relief from the gas prices :-))

Yeah, we can pretty much fly the 'Coupe four times a week (or more) for what
it costs to fly Atlas once. Once the weather gets cold, and we're not able
to fly with the top down, I expect we'll not be flying "Sweetie" quite so
much -- but ya gotta make hay while the sun's shining!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
Ercoupe N94856www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

How expensive is it to maintain a coupe, relative to other aircraft?
There are a few models that are LSA eligible, and I have been tossing
the idea of buying one to train in.

Rocky Stevens wrote:
On Aug 17, 9:11 am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
The old Coupe is a wonderful airplane as I'm sure you have already
learned. It chugs along quite cheerfully on a dime. I have a few hours in
one that we had on the field. It was a lot of fun, sort of like a car. I'd
roll down the side window and just feel the breezes. We flew it off a hard
surface but it behaved a bit better on the grass.
I haven't taken it on grass yet, but it lands so easily I expect it'll be
very nice. (Our local grass strip -- one of our favorite places to fly --
is still closed since the flooding in June. Six feet of water killed the
grass, and they're keeping it closed until the turf comes back strong enough
to take the abuse of landings.)

The one thing I recall more than anything else was how low the nose was
when we had to prop it once in a while.
You may be describing a typical problem with 'Coupes. The landing gear
geometry is important, and with age gets "off" as the landing gear donuts
age and sag. This also adversely impacts take-off performance, as it
changes the angle of attack. Our landing gear is brand new, and sits fairly
tall, especially compared to the old, clapped out Ercoupe I flew in back in
Wisconsin.

Of course, it's a tiny airplane, so even "sitting tall" it's pretty low to
the ground. Everything about it is...cute.

Looks like your son has taken to the bird with no trouble at all. Glad you
guys are getting some relief from the gas prices :-))
Yeah, we can pretty much fly the 'Coupe four times a week (or more) for what
it costs to fly Atlas once. Once the weather gets cold, and we're not able
to fly with the top down, I expect we'll not be flying "Sweetie" quite so
much -- but ya gotta make hay while the sun's shining!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
Ercoupe N94856www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

How expensive is it to maintain a coupe, relative to other aircraft?
There are a few models that are LSA eligible, and I have been tossing
the idea of buying one to train in.

Can't speak to the current prices, but for sheer fun on a budget, the
Coupe is a great little airplane. I wouldn't recommend buying one for
initial flight training however. Your initial learning curve requires
acclimation to controls and control response that are much better
learned in a straight conventional setup. Even an Ercoupe with a rudder
conversion would not be as suitable for initial training as say a 150
Cessna. Once you have coordination down pat, the switch to a Coupe is a
fun thing.

--
Dudley Henriques

Volk Field, an Air Force base in central Wisconsin, had an open house today,
and offered not only a static display, but also the F-16 demo team as well
as an IFR and VFR seminar by the FAA. It was a beautiful high pressure day,
and there were at least 30 planes on the ramp. We had a Chinook, Blackhawk,
three f-16's, as well as a KC-135 and other stuff, in addition to the Wings
seminar and great weather.

It was a great flying day, and fun for all.