Getting an IFR Clearance

On Sep 24, 4:31*pm, "Kobra" wrote:
*The chances of having a conflict there as well
is possible, but I would say not probable.

Kobra

Don't feed the troll Kobra. Mx doesn't know the IFR system IN THE
REAL WORLD, only VATSIM and I'd hate for this group get polluted like
RAS and RAP. As you know flying a real airplane is quite different
then sitting front of a desktop computer simming

To answer your question, could be many factors that you raise, but
maybe a call to tracon may give you some enlightment?

It does seem odd that ATC would ask for a complete course reversal at
a VFR altitude. Did you gandar at Flight Aware to see what your track
look like in relation to your next fix and airway?

Like you, when I am up even remotely close to the ADIZ, IFR is the way
to go :-))

It does seem odd that ATC would ask for a complete course reversal at
a VFR altitude. Did you gandar at Flight Aware to see what your track
look like in relation to your next fix and airway?

Atlieb,

I just went to flight aware and unfortunately they only show my return trip.
I cancelled 3/4 the way home to get a direct route to N14.

Kobra

On Sep 24, 8:34*pm, "Kobra" wrote:

I just went to flight aware and unfortunately they only show my return trip.
I cancelled 3/4 the way home to get a direct route to N14.

Kobra

Dang,

I thought maybe the flight track may help explain the course reversal,
more like set you up for intercepting the next fix would have been my
guess.

Oh well, nothing gained, nothing lost but the adventure, and heck, you
left terra firma!

writes:

Mx doesn't know the IFR system IN THE
REAL WORLD, only VATSIM and I'd hate for this group get polluted like
RAS and RAP.

What are the relevant differences? And what makes you think that I don't know
the IFR system of the real world? It's not top secret, after all.

As you know flying a real airplane is quite different
then sitting front of a desktop computer simming

But flying an airplane and following established, published procedures are two
different things.

Most pilots don't know anything about IFR, either.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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writes:

Mx doesn't know the IFR system IN THE
REAL WORLD, only VATSIM and I'd hate for this group get polluted like
RAS and RAP.

What are the relevant differences? And what makes you think that I don't
know
the IFR system of the real world? It's not top secret, after all.

You don't know the IFR system of the real world because you obviously have
no experience with it. If you can't understand the difference between
knowledge and experience, there's really no point in evaluating your input
because it would be like discussing lovemaking with someone who had only
read a book on the subject or had only participated online (which is a
strong possibility in your case also).

On Sep 25, 3:50*pm, "Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote:

because it would be like discussing lovemaking with someone who had only
read a book on the subject or had only participated online (which is a
strong possibility in your case also).

Unfortunately Mike, he has been told this time over time. Let's not
feed into it :-)

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On Sep 25, 3:50 pm, "Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote:

because it would be like discussing lovemaking with someone who had only
read a book on the subject or had only participated online (which is a
strong possibility in your case also).

Unfortunately Mike, he has been told this time over time. Let's not
feed into it :-)

And yet it still hasn't lost its novelty yet.

Mike writes:

You don't know the IFR system of the real world because you obviously have
no experience with it.

I do know the IFR system of the real world, since I've studied it.

You don't learn IFR by trial and error. You learn it by studying, and a great
deal of that is book study.

On Sep 25, 5:43*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

I do know the IFR system of the real world, since I've studied it.

You don't learn IFR by trial and error. *You learn it by studying, and a great
deal of that is book study.

For the one and few remaining groups that still have it's sanity,
PLEASE disregard Mx postings!

The above response is off topic for the original thread question and
detracts from Kobra's original question regarding getting an IFR
clearance.

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wrote in message
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On Sep 25, 5:43 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

I do know the IFR system of the real world, since I've studied it.

You don't learn IFR by trial and error. You learn it by studying, and a
great
deal of that is book study.

For the one and few remaining groups that still have it's sanity,
PLEASE disregard Mx postings!

The above response is off topic for the original thread question and
detracts from Kobra's original question regarding getting an IFR
clearance.

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why don't you just answer his question? It's a great opportunity to build
your writing, composition and debating skills. The source doesn't matter.
If you can't argue the point, YOU LOSE! If you don't want to play, SHUT UP!
I always like the statement, "Lead, Follow or Get out of the way", that
fosters progression, just don't hinder.

--
Regards, Bob F.