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Old January 11th 04, 10:43 PM
Tarver Engineering
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"Smartace11" wrote in message
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They can and have been actively controlled, by computers, in both

aircraft
and autos.


I agree but not in F1 or F! type cars as you said. Rules don't allow.


I wrote that there are Formula One type races for cars with computer
controlled spoiler flaps. Whatever else you may have surmised must have
come from the voices in your own head.


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Old January 12th 04, 12:41 AM
BackToNormal
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Tarver Engineering wrote:

"Smartace11" wrote in message
...

They can and have been actively controlled, by computers, in both
aircraft and autos.


I agree but not in F1 or F! type cars as you said. Rules don't allow.


I wrote that there are Formula One type races for cars with computer
controlled spoiler flaps..


Nope. You specified "some formula one style racers".
*******
That's not the same as "Formula One type races" Tarver.
*****
Airflow appendages on F1 cars can not be adjusted during racing. Any
category allowing such adjustment would not be a F1 style racer.

Which of the following allow in-race adjustment -- F1, Champcars,
Indycars, F2000, F3000, F5000, F2, F3, F4, Barber Dodge Pro,
Formula Ford, Formula Renault, Europa Cup, Formula BMW, Formula Holden,
Formula Nippon, Formula Nissan, Formula Palmer Audi, Fran-Am 1600,
Formula Russell, Formula Vee, Star Mazda, Formula F Zetec etc.

They are open wheelers (but so is my neighbour's quad bike).

Which of the above are F1 "style" categories?

Is a F1 car a 'Star Mazda style racer'?

ronh



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Old January 12th 04, 08:03 PM
James Hart
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BackToNormal wrote:
Tarver Engineering wrote:

"Smartace11" wrote in message
...

They can and have been actively controlled, by computers, in both
aircraft and autos.


I agree but not in F1 or F! type cars as you said. Rules don't
allow.


I wrote that there are Formula One type races for cars with computer
controlled spoiler flaps..


Nope. You specified "some formula one style racers".
*******
That's not the same as "Formula One type races" Tarver.
*****
Airflow appendages on F1 cars can not be adjusted during racing. Any
category allowing such adjustment would not be a F1 style racer.


Wrong.

Which of the following allow in-race adjustment -- F1, Champcars,
Indycars, F2000, F3000, F5000, F2, F3, F4, Barber Dodge Pro,
Formula Ford, Formula Renault, Europa Cup, Formula BMW, Formula
Holden, Formula Nippon, Formula Nissan, Formula Palmer Audi, Fran-Am
1600, Formula Russell, Formula Vee, Star Mazda, Formula F Zetec etc.


Most of those categories can have the aero package adjusted during the race,
some may even do it routinely during a pitstop like Champcars/Indycars and
to a lesser extent F1.

They are open wheelers (but so is my neighbour's quad bike).

Which of the above are F1 "style" categories?


Generally speaking F1 style categories are slicks and wings with more power
than grip.

--
James...
www.jameshart.co.uk


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Old January 12th 04, 09:31 PM
BackToNormal
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James Hart wrote:

BackToNormal wrote:
Tarver Engineering wrote:

"Smartace11" wrote in message
...

They can and have been actively controlled, by computers, in both
aircraft and autos.


I agree but not in F1 or F! type cars as you said. Rules don't
allow.


I wrote that there are Formula One type races for cars with computer
controlled spoiler flaps..


Nope. You specified "some formula one style racers".
*******
That's not the same as "Formula One type races" Tarver.
*****
Airflow appendages on F1 cars can not be adjusted during racing. Any
category allowing such adjustment would not be a F1 style racer.


Wrong.


Nope. You haven't quite followed the thread. Tarver wrote "they
(airflow appendages) can and have been actively controlled, by
computers, in both aircraft and autos". That obviously means while an
aircraft is flying and an auto is racing. I was referring to ON-TRACK
racing, not while the car is stationary in the pits.

Which of the following allow in-race adjustment -- F1, Champcars,
Indycars, F2000, F3000, F5000, F2, F3, F4, Barber Dodge Pro,
Formula Ford, Formula Renault, Europa Cup, Formula BMW, Formula
Holden, Formula Nippon, Formula Nissan, Formula Palmer Audi, Fran-Am
1600, Formula Russell, Formula Vee, Star Mazda, Formula F Zetec etc.


Most of those categories can have the aero package adjusted during the race,
some may even do it routinely during a pitstop like Champcars/Indycars and
to a lesser extent F1.


See above.

They are open wheelers (but so is my neighbour's quad bike).

Which of the above are F1 "style" categories?


Generally speaking F1 style categories are slicks and wings with more power
than grip.


Huh! F1 cars do NOT have slicks!

ronh


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"People do not make decisions on facts, rather,
how they feel about the facts" Robert Consedine
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Old January 12th 04, 09:46 PM
James Hart
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BackToNormal wrote:
James Hart wrote:

BackToNormal wrote:
Tarver Engineering wrote:

"Smartace11" wrote in message
...

They can and have been actively controlled, by computers, in both
aircraft and autos.

I agree but not in F1 or F! type cars as you said. Rules don't
allow.

I wrote that there are Formula One type races for cars with
computer controlled spoiler flaps..

Nope. You specified "some formula one style racers".
*******
That's not the same as "Formula One type races" Tarver.
*****
Airflow appendages on F1 cars can not be adjusted during racing. Any
category allowing such adjustment would not be a F1 style racer.


Wrong.


Nope. You haven't quite followed the thread.


Yes I have.

Tarver wrote "they
(airflow appendages) can and have been actively controlled, by
computers, in both aircraft and autos". That obviously means while an
aircraft is flying and an auto is racing.


Correct, he did write that and what's more he's right, computer controlled
airflow appendages have been used in auto racing. These days they are mostly
banned though.

I was referring to ON-TRACK
racing, not while the car is stationary in the pits.


Then why didn't you state that then? Quote "Airflow appendages on F1 cars
can not be adjusted during racing."
Last I checked the pits are part of racing.

Which of the following allow in-race adjustment -- F1, Champcars,
Indycars, F2000, F3000, F5000, F2, F3, F4, Barber Dodge Pro,
Formula Ford, Formula Renault, Europa Cup, Formula BMW, Formula
Holden, Formula Nippon, Formula Nissan, Formula Palmer Audi, Fran-Am
1600, Formula Russell, Formula Vee, Star Mazda, Formula F Zetec etc.


Most of those categories can have the aero package adjusted during
the race, some may even do it routinely during a pitstop like
Champcars/Indycars and to a lesser extent F1.


See above.

They are open wheelers (but so is my neighbour's quad bike).

Which of the above are F1 "style" categories?


Generally speaking F1 style categories are slicks and wings with
more power than grip.


Huh! F1 cars do NOT have slicks!


Correct, these days they don't (although the FIA do refer to them as grooved
slicks) but to a casual observer it's easy to decribe something like an
F3000 car as being F1 like rather than NASCAR like.

--
James...
www.jameshart.co.uk


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Old January 12th 04, 10:46 PM
Pete
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"BackToNormal" wrote

Huh! F1 cars do NOT have slicks!

ronh


It is being discussed for the future.
http://f1.racing-live.com/en/index.h...05013503.shtml

Pete


 




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