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Old November 22nd 09, 11:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Garry O
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"Builder" wrote in message
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I seldom post or visit this group any more. The group used to be
relevant and helpful to the aviation home builder with professional,
skilled advice and suggestions. But it seems to be degenerating into
spam posts and personal verbal contests, often with show-off,
insulting and foul language.

This unfortunately happens in news groups with no moderators. Freedom
to anarchy.


A simple set of filters will remove most of the spam and it doesn't take
long to recognise the sh!t fights and just ignore them.
As to Moderation, I see it as freedom to express an opinion without having
worry about upsetting a moderator, moderated groups tend to descend into
censorship and appeasement just as fast as unmoderated groups descend into
anarchy IMHO and in my years on Usenet Moderated groups seem to die a much
faster death on average.

--
Flying RA Aus, because its cheaper and I can do it more often :-)

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Old November 22nd 09, 08:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Jim Logajan
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"Garry O" wrote:
A simple set of filters will remove most of the spam and it doesn't
take long to recognise the sh!t fights and just ignore them.


Reasonable advice. But the following isn't accurate:

As to Moderation, I see it as freedom to express an opinion without
having worry about upsetting a moderator, moderated groups tend to
descend into censorship and appeasement just as fast as unmoderated
groups descend into anarchy IMHO and in my years on Usenet Moderated
groups seem to die a much faster death on average.


If moderation were as bad as you claim, then hardly anyone would have moved
to the various moderated web forums like POA and those run by AOPA, EAA,
etc. So there is no evidence to indicate that moderation per se kills
groups. Indeed rec.aviation.piloting was a victim of total lack of
moderation.
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Old November 23rd 09, 01:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Garry O
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Posts: 27
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"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
.. .
"Garry O" wrote:
A simple set of filters will remove most of the spam and it doesn't
take long to recognise the sh!t fights and just ignore them.


Reasonable advice. But the following isn't accurate:

As to Moderation, I see it as freedom to express an opinion without
having worry about upsetting a moderator, moderated groups tend to
descend into censorship and appeasement just as fast as unmoderated
groups descend into anarchy IMHO and in my years on Usenet Moderated
groups seem to die a much faster death on average.


If moderation were as bad as you claim, then hardly anyone would have
moved
to the various moderated web forums like POA and those run by AOPA, EAA,
etc. So there is no evidence to indicate that moderation per se kills
groups. Indeed rec.aviation.piloting was a victim of total lack of
moderation.


A web forum is NOT Usenet now is it :-) (and I am a member of a few such
forums)
and that was where my opinion (and its just an opinion after all) was aimed
because that was where the question was raised.
I still maintain that a moderated Usenet forum is usually set up as a
private kingdom (but I will concede that it is not the case for all
moderated forums) where no views that diverge from those of the moderator/s
ever make it out alive. What you end up with at the end of the day is a
group of people who all think the same way.

--
Flying RA Aus, because its cheaper and I can do it more often :-)

 




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