They call it the impossible turn.

On Feb 13, 4:58*am, Mxsmanic wrote:

If the area in front of the airplane is truly flat, smooth, and safe, so much
so that there's no harm in landing on it, I wonder how many pilots would still
be tempted to turn around. If you know you can land ahead off the runway with
no damage to the airplane, is there still any reason to turn around?

Why are you obsessed with a part of flight that has no meaning to you?
Just hit Control ALT Delete and walk away.
Leave the real stuff to real pilots.
The good and even great advice that has been handed out in here you
have ignored or turned into a game of semantics.
Go forth and multipy !

george writes:

Why are you obsessed with a part of flight that has no meaning to you?

Obviously it has meaning to me, or I would not discuss it. It's important to
be prepared for any eventuality when flying.

In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
george writes:

Why are you obsessed with a part of flight that has no meaning to you?

Obviously it has meaning to me, or I would not discuss it. It's important to
be prepared for any eventuality when flying.

Yeah to a real pilot in a real airplane, but not to a simmer.

You've already said you avoid things like VFR traffic and NORDO aircraft,
which are very common in real flying, so why the obsession with simulating
the dreaded "impossible turn", which is very rare by comparison in real
flying?


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Jim Pennino

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Yeah to a real pilot in a real airplane, but not to a simmer.

Simmers generally have the same priorities. That's what simulation is all
about.

You've already said you avoid things like VFR traffic and NORDO aircraft,
which are very common in real flying ...

Not over LAX. I like to fly in Class A, B, C, or D airspace, and NORDO
aircraft are scarce there for obvious reasons. I do fly in other airspaces,
but often at such out-of-the-way airports that there's nobody else around.

... so why the obsession with simulating
the dreaded "impossible turn", which is very rare by comparison in real
flying?

I don't simulate this turn. I rarely practice engine-out procedures, and even
if I did, the impossible turn is such a stellar example of poor judgment that
I'd not likely be tempted to try it.

In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

Yeah to a real pilot in a real airplane, but not to a simmer.

Simmers generally have the same priorities. That's what simulation is all
about.

Delusional.

You've already said you avoid things like VFR traffic and NORDO aircraft,
which are very common in real flying ...

Not over LAX. I like to fly in Class A, B, C, or D airspace, and NORDO
aircraft are scarce there for obvious reasons. I do fly in other airspaces,
but often at such out-of-the-way airports that there's nobody else around.

If you are less than 10,000 feet, LAX is surrounded by places with lots
of VFR and NORDO traffic in the real world.

The "out-of-the-way airports" are where, in the real world, you are most
likely to find NORDO traffic.

... so why the obsession with simulating
the dreaded "impossible turn", which is very rare by comparison in real
flying?

I don't simulate this turn. I rarely practice engine-out procedures, and even
if I did, the impossible turn is such a stellar example of poor judgment that
I'd not likely be tempted to try it.

So why do you seem so obsesed with it?


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Jim Pennino

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The "out-of-the-way airports" are where, in the real world, you are most
likely to find NORDO traffic.

That depends on the airport. Many tiny airports have only a handful of
operations a day.

In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
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The "out-of-the-way airports" are where, in the real world, you are most
likely to find NORDO traffic.

That depends on the airport. Many tiny airports have only a handful of
operations a day.

Non sequitur.



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On Feb 13, 6:44*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
george writes:
Why are you obsessed with a part of flight that has no meaning to you?

Obviously it has meaning to me, or I would not discuss it. It's important to
be prepared for any eventuality when flying.

So do you wear a parachute when you are playing simulators? or do you
have a ballistic one attached to your PC?

terry writes:

So do you wear a parachute when you are playing simulators?

No more so than I would in real life.

On Feb 13, 9:19*am, terry wrote:
On Feb 13, 6:44*am, Mxsmanic wrote:

george writes:
Why are you obsessed with a part of flight that has no meaning to you?

Obviously it has meaning to me, or I would not discuss it. It's important to
be prepared for any eventuality when flying.

So do you wear a parachute when you are playing simulators? or do you
have a ballistic one attached to your PC?

:-)