Co-pilot gets sick, stewardess helps land airplane

On Jun 18, 12:13*am, Wingnut wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:10:01 -0700, Dudley Henriques wrote:
It helped certainly that this nice lady had flying experience but it
was by NO MEANS essential to what she was asked to do or what she
actually did in the cockpit.

Had the Captain opted to, he most certainly could have completed the
flight to a safe completion from the left seat without assistance. He
might have had to extend his reach a bit at times, but nothing earth
shattering for sure.

All in all, this was a class crew and they did a class job, right down
to the stew who very classily and politely deflated the media hype on
her role in the completion of this flight.

Consider who would have been landing the plane if something had caused
the pilot to also conk out, though. Then her prior flight experience
would have become quite relevant indeed.

Actually her prior light plane flying experience could be a negative
believe it or not. Her ability to follow explicit instruction
resulting in any control input involves an aircraft time
line requiring a response to input correction involving an input to
initiate and an input to stop the response. Assuming a requirement for
a correct result each and every time a control input was initiated,
prior experience in a light plane enters the element of expectation
into the input equation for the newbie. In other words, the difference
between the actual result of any manual control input to a 767's
controls in any and all axis, especially when coupled, roll/
yaw.......pitch/roll etc.....by a newbie needing the result to be
right the first time tried from verbal instruction with the newbie
having an expected response based on a totally different airplane
places an EXTRA element into the equation that could easily extend/
alter/ or change the required response time line.
This scenario could easily make the correction time line longer than
it might have been had no expectation of aircraft response been
involved.
All this is just a fancy way of saying that prior experience in a
Cessna 150 might not matter in a 767 being landed by a newbie
following detailed instruction.
DH

On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:11:10 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:

All this is just a fancy way of saying that prior experience in a
Cessna 150 might not matter in a 767 being landed by a newbie
following detailed instruction.

Like Atta? Tell Dekker and Hilliard that.

lol
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On Jun 19, 6:40*am, Ari Silverstein wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:11:10 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:
All this is just a fancy way of saying that prior experience in a
Cessna 150 might not matter in a 767 being landed by a newbie
following detailed instruction.

Like Atta? Tell Dekker and Hilliard that.

lol
--
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Motto: Live To Spooge It!

I fail to see your point. Ata and his fellow terrorists trained
specifically in full motion simulators designed to duplicate the exact
type of aircraft they took over and flew. There were no landings
involved in their actions.

On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 05:22:25 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:

On Jun 19, 6:40*am, Ari Silverstein wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:11:10 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:
All this is just a fancy way of saying that prior experience in a
Cessna 150 might not matter in a 767 being landed by a newbie
following detailed instruction.

Like Atta? Tell Dekker and Hilliard that.

lol
--
A fireside chat not with Ari!http://tr.im/holj
Motto: Live To Spooge It!

I fail to see your point.

Brush up on your 9/11 history.

Ata and his fellow terrorists trained
specifically in full motion simulators designed to duplicate the exact
type of aircraft they took over and flew. There were no landings
involved in their actions.

Tell Dekker and Hilliard that. Then wait for the laugh.
--
A fireside chat not with Ari!
http://tr.im/holj
Motto: Live To Spooge It!

On Jun 19, 8:33*am, Ari Silverstein wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 05:22:25 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:
On Jun 19, 6:40 am, Ari Silverstein wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:11:10 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:
All this is just a fancy way of saying that prior experience in a
Cessna 150 might not matter in a 767 being landed by a newbie
following detailed instruction.

Like Atta? Tell Dekker and Hilliard that.

lol
--
A fireside chat not with Ari!http://tr.im/holj
Motto: Live To Spooge It!

I fail to see your point.

Brush up on your 9/11 history.

Ata and his fellow terrorists trained
specifically in full motion simulators designed to duplicate the exact
type of aircraft they took over and flew. There were no landings
involved in their actions.

Tell Dekker and Hilliard that. Then wait for the laugh.
--
A fireside chat not with Ari!http://tr.im/holj
Motto: Live To Spooge It!

Ah yes. Should have caught on with the tone of your initial post.
Forgot who you are for a moment. Chalk it up to getting older.
So much for "piloting" posting today; onward now to things a bit more
productive. Have a nice day. :-)))))))

On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 05:44:51 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:

On Jun 19, 8:33*am, Ari Silverstein wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 05:22:25 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:
On Jun 19, 6:40 am, Ari Silverstein wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:11:10 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:
All this is just a fancy way of saying that prior experience in a
Cessna 150 might not matter in a 767 being landed by a newbie
following detailed instruction.

Like Atta? Tell Dekker and Hilliard that.

lol
--
A fireside chat not with Ari!http://tr.im/holj
Motto: Live To Spooge It!

I fail to see your point.

Brush up on your 9/11 history.

Ata and his fellow terrorists trained
specifically in full motion simulators designed to duplicate the exact
type of aircraft they took over and flew. There were no landings
involved in their actions.

Tell Dekker and Hilliard that. Then wait for the laugh.
--
A fireside chat not with Ari!http://tr.im/holj
Motto: Live To Spooge It!

Ah yes. Should have caught on with the tone of your initial post.
Forgot who you are for a moment. Chalk it up to getting older.
So much for "piloting" posting today; onward now to things a bit more
productive. Have a nice day. :-)))))))

Keep in mind that:

1) You don't know everything
2) Venice is in my neck of the woods, Hilliard is a neighbor and...
--
A fireside chat not with Ari!
http://tr.im/holj
Motto: Live To Spooge It!

On Jun 19, 9:14*am, Ari Silverstein wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 05:44:51 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:
On Jun 19, 8:33 am, Ari Silverstein wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 05:22:25 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:
On Jun 19, 6:40 am, Ari Silverstein wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:11:10 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:
All this is just a fancy way of saying that prior experience in a
Cessna 150 might not matter in a 767 being landed by a newbie
following detailed instruction.

Like Atta? Tell Dekker and Hilliard that.

lol
--
A fireside chat not with Ari!http://tr.im/holj
Motto: Live To Spooge It!

I fail to see your point.

Brush up on your 9/11 history.

Ata and his fellow terrorists trained
specifically in full motion simulators designed to duplicate the exact
type of aircraft they took over and flew. There were no landings
involved in their actions.

Tell Dekker and Hilliard that. Then wait for the laugh.
--
A fireside chat not with Ari!http://tr.im/holj
Motto: Live To Spooge It!

Ah yes. Should have caught on with the tone of your initial post.
Forgot who you are for a moment. Chalk it up to getting older.
So much for "piloting" posting today; onward now to things a bit more
productive. Have a nice day. :-)))))))

Keep in mind that:

1) You don't know everything
..
.......and YOU might keep in mind that I don't HAVE to know everything.
I have a wife for that.
Have a nice day.
DH

Ari Silverstein wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 05:22:25 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:

On Jun 19, 6:40*am, Ari Silverstein wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:11:10 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:
All this is just a fancy way of saying that prior experience in a
Cessna 150 might not matter in a 767 being landed by a newbie
following detailed instruction.

Like Atta? Tell Dekker and Hilliard that.

lol
--
A fireside chat not with Ari!http://tr.im/holj
Motto: Live To Spooge It!

I fail to see your point.

Brush up on your 9/11 history.

Ata and his fellow terrorists trained
specifically in full motion simulators designed to duplicate the exact
type of aircraft they took over and flew. There were no landings
involved in their actions.

Tell Dekker and Hilliard that. Then wait for the laugh.

Hopsicker keeps posting observations about Huffman. He has deja vu with
Mena.

http://www.madcowprod.com/

On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:11:10 -0700, Dudley Henriques wrote:

All this is just a fancy way of saying that prior experience in a Cessna
150 might not matter in a 767

Who said anything about a Cessna? The original post said she had
experience as a *commercial* pilot. That tends to mean something a bit
bigger than just a personal aircraft.

Wingnut writes:

Who said anything about a Cessna? The original post said she had
experience as a *commercial* pilot. That tends to mean something a bit
bigger than just a personal aircraft.

You can fly commercially in a Cessna. And unless you also have a job as a
commercial pilot in addition to the CPL, you might not ever fly anything much
larger than that.