Co-pilot gets sick, stewardess helps land airplane

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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As I've said, a lot of private pilots seem to give physical sensations
priority over everything else. But there's a lot more to flying than a
roller-coaster ride. I don't care much for the physical sensations
myself,
although takeoff and landing are kind of pleasant if they are smooth.

What physical sensations are you referring to? You don't fly and you know
nothing about flying. You just play a computer game in your cupboard in
Paris.
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JohnT

JohnT writes:

What physical sensations are you referring to?

All of them. Some people are very into strong sensations.

You don't fly and you know nothing about flying.

I have flown in airplanes many times. The sensations felt by pilots are
identical to those felt by passengers.

On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:42:15 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

JohnT writes:

What physical sensations are you referring to?

All of them. Some people are very into strong sensations.

Indeed. That goes without saying. Theme parks are full of them.

You don't fly and you know nothing about flying.

I have flown in airplanes many times. The sensations felt by pilots are
identical to those felt by passengers.

Except the pilots have to deal with it and aren't allowed to
cower in their sets.

Of course it goes without saying that there are a number of
sensations that one can have when when piloting a plane smaller
than a 707 that airline passengers rarely experience, and when
they do it tends to be one of their last sensations.

Since your actual flying experience consists of being a passenger
on on large airliners it would serve you well to restrict your
comments to that experience.

By the way I've been a passenger on some smaller aircraft with
maybe ten or eleven seats, and the sensations are quite a bit
different than when a passenger on a 747.

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On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:16:01 -0700, Hatunen
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:42:15 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

JohnT writes:

What physical sensations are you referring to?

All of them. Some people are very into strong sensations.

Indeed. That goes without saying. Theme parks are full of them.

You don't fly and you know nothing about flying.

I have flown in airplanes many times. The sensations felt by pilots are
identical to those felt by passengers.

Except the pilots have to deal with it and aren't allowed to
cower in their sets.

Of course it goes without saying that there are a number of
sensations that one can have when when piloting a plane smaller
than a 707 that airline passengers rarely experience, and when
they do it tends to be one of their last sensations.

Since your actual flying experience consists of being a passenger
on on large airliners it would serve you well to restrict your
comments to that experience.

By the way I've been a passenger on some smaller aircraft with
maybe ten or eleven seats, and the sensations are quite a bit
different than when a passenger on a 747.

(More or less off-topic, but that's the reasoning I used to
decide never again take take the fast boat between Tallinn and
Helsinki, no matter how fast it is, in favor of the big Tallink
ferries.)

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************* DAVE HATUNEN ) *************
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* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *

Hatunen writes:

Indeed. That goes without saying. Theme parks are full of them.

Yes. It's a risky personality trait for people who operate vehicles. A
tremendous number of automobile accidents can be traced to this trait. And it
is often said that the most common last words of private pilots are "Watch
this!"

Except the pilots have to deal with it and aren't allowed to
cower in their sets.

I have never seen anyone cowering in his seat during a flight. The sensations
are exceedingly tame.

Of course it goes without saying that there are a number of
sensations that one can have when when piloting a plane smaller
than a 707 that airline passengers rarely experience, and when
they do it tends to be one of their last sensations.

"Watch this!"

Since your actual flying experience consists of being a passenger
on on large airliners it would serve you well to restrict your
comments to that experience.

Why?

I know that small planes move around more. It's one of several reasons to
avoid traveling in small planes.

By the way I've been a passenger on some smaller aircraft with
maybe ten or eleven seats, and the sensations are quite a bit
different than when a passenger on a 747.

So have I. I didn't find the sensations so very different as long as the
aircraft is competently flown.

On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 23:59:04 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Hatunen writes:

Indeed. That goes without saying. Theme parks are full of them.

Yes. It's a risky personality trait for people who operate vehicles. A
tremendous number of automobile accidents can be traced to this trait. And it
is often said that the most common last words of private pilots are "Watch
this!"

REally. That's their last words? Who reported this fact? The
passneger he was shoing off to? I would have though the last
words would be something more like "AAW ****!!!".

Except the pilots have to deal with it and aren't allowed to
cower in their sets.

I have never seen anyone cowering in his seat during a flight. The sensations
are exceedingly tame.

You obviously haven't been on some flights I've been on.

Of course it goes without saying that there are a number of
sensations that one can have when when piloting a plane smaller
than a 707 that airline passengers rarely experience, and when
they do it tends to be one of their last sensations.

"Watch this!"

Since your actual flying experience consists of being a passenger
on on large airliners it would serve you well to restrict your
comments to that experience.

Why?

I know that small planes move around more. It's one of several reasons to
avoid traveling in small planes.

As a passenger, I agree wholeheartedly. Give me a good old jumbo
any day.

By the way I've been a passenger on some smaller aircraft with
maybe ten or eleven seats, and the sensations are quite a bit
different than when a passenger on a 747.

So have I. I didn't find the sensations so very different as long as the
aircraft is competently flown.

Again, I suspect you haven't been on some of the routes I've been
on in small planes.

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************* DAVE HATUNEN ) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *

Hatunen writes:

REally. That's their last words?

Well, it's a saying, not a finding of fact. It illustrates a point, namely,
that thrillseeking behavior is incompatible with safe, normal flight.

I would have though the last
words would be something more like "AAW ****!!!".

Yes, this is supported by the data, along with things like "Uh-oh" or "Amy, I
love you."

You obviously haven't been on some flights I've been on.

I fly only with safe, major carriers if I can.

Again, I suspect you haven't been on some of the routes I've been
on in small planes.

Turbulence is one thing. Pilot incompetence is another.

On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 00:50:24 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Hatunen writes:

REally. That's their last words?

Well, it's a saying, not a finding of fact.

Ah. and jsut who says it?

It illustrates a point, namely,
that thrillseeking behavior is incompatible with safe, normal flight.

Whoa. No ****? I woulda never thunk it.

I would have though the last
words would be something more like "AAW ****!!!".

Yes, this is supported by the data, along with things like "Uh-oh" or "Amy, I
love you."

But you said the last words were "Watch this"; nowreally, which
ones are the last words?

You obviously haven't been on some flights I've been on.

I fly only with safe, major carriers if I can.

Never hit a major downdraft in a safe, major carrier, then?

Again, I suspect you haven't been on some of the routes I've been
on in small planes.

Turbulence is one thing. Pilot incompetence is another.

Uh. Well, yeah. But you said there weren't any sensations, not
that turbulence was due to pilot incompetence. Or are you NOT
saying turbulence is due to pilot incompetence? It's a bit
unclear.

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* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *

In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
JohnT writes:

What physical sensations are you referring to?

All of them. Some people are very into strong sensations.

You don't fly and you know nothing about flying.

I have flown in airplanes many times. The sensations felt by pilots are
identical to those felt by passengers.

Yeah, sure.

What you gloss over is that airline pilots take great care to minimize any
sensations felt by passengers because it tends to scare them and make them
not want to fly that airline again.


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Jim Pennino

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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I have flown in airplanes many times. The sensations felt by pilots are
identical to those felt by passengers.

How could you possibly know that as you have never ever flown any aircraft?
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JohnT