Co-pilot gets sick, stewardess helps land airplane

writes:

Ever hear of SLOW FLIGHT????????????

Be it slow flight or fast flight, you don't wait until something goes wrong to
react. Do not assume that all aircraft will be as forgiving of mistakes as
some tiny airplanes are.

LANDING IS NOT IFR NOR WAS I TALKING ABOUT FLYING IN IMC.

As I recall, you've talked about it before, in terms that worried me.

YOU DON'T EXPERIENCE WINDSHEAR IN MSFS,

Actually, I think you can, with add-ons like ActiveSky, but I don't recall
experiencing it.

DO YOU where suddenly your controls get mushy??????????

I never reach a point where the controls get mushy except for occasional
academic experiments. I'd never allow that to happen in normal flight. I want
fat safety margins around my flight regime.

There are many reasons for flight that require you to NOT look at your
instruments but fly by the seat of your pants. Example would be
photography, search and rescue.

I don't do photography or S&R. All you really need to see visually is traffic,
and you don't need to fly by the seat of your pants at all (and you cannot,
under IFR).

SO, NO I AM NOT BEHIND THE PLANE.

Well, certainly if you scream it out, it must be so, eh?

Mxsmanic wrote:

I never reach a point where the controls get mushy except for occasional
academic experiments. I'd never allow that to happen in normal flight. I want
fat safety margins around my flight regime.

Unless your PC has controls with active feedback, all you will ever feel
is the spring tension.

It is impossible for any of the consumer grade PC stuff to ever feel mushy.

--
Jim Pennino

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On Jun 23, 5:10*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

I never reach a point where the controls get mushy except for occasional
academic experiments. I'd never allow that to happen in normal flight. I want
fat safety margins around my flight regime.

YOU GET MUSHY CONTROLS IN MSFS???????????? YOU DON"T HAVE CONTROLS IN
MSFS, YOU USE A JOYSTICK OR A KEYBOARD.

I don't do photography or S&R. All you really need to see visually is traffic,
and you don't need to fly by the seat of your pants at all (and you cannot,
under IFR).

THEN YOU DON'T FLY A REAL PLANE IF YOU THINK PHOTOGRAPHY ANSD S&R IS
THE ONLY TIME YOU DO SLOW FLIGHT.. YOU LAND A PLANE UNDER VFR, NOT
IFR.

SO, NO I AM NOT BEHIND THE PLANE.

Well, certainly if you scream it out, it must be so, eh?

NO, YOU CAN"T SEEM TO COMPREHEND THAT MSFS IS NOT FLYING A PLANE. IT
SIMULATES FLYING.

On Jun 24, 7:00*am, " wrote:

THE ONLY TIME YOU DO SLOW FLIGHT.. *YOU LAND A PLANE UNDER VFR, NOT
IFR.

CORRECTION to my post above - You land a plane under VMC conditions
(VISUAL)

writes:

CORRECTION to my post above - You land a plane under VMC conditions
(VISUAL)

Almost, but not quite. Aircraft land in IMC all the time, and I've done it
many times.

Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

CORRECTION to my post above - You land a plane under VMC conditions
(VISUAL)

Almost, but not quite. Aircraft land in IMC all the time, and I've done it
many times.

No, you have not.

The only thing you have "landed" is MSFS.



--
Jim Pennino

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On Jun 24, 4:49*pm, wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

CORRECTION to my post above - You land a plane under VMC conditions
(VISUAL)

Almost, but not quite. Aircraft land in IMC all the time, and I've done it
many times.

Then YOU DID NOT SIMULATE LANDING THE PLANE. Did you????????????

DUH, AUTO LAND........ HELLO, anybody out there.

PILOTS LAND THE PLANE in VMC.in the real world.

As Jim already pointed out, YOU DON'T land anything. YOU SIMULATE
LANDING on MSFS.

WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT SIMULATION?????

writes:

Then YOU DID NOT SIMULATE LANDING THE PLANE. Did you????????????

I've simulated all sorts of landings: hand-flown, autopilot (including
autoland), VMC, IMC, zero visibility, crosswinds, etc. The greater the variety
of situations you simulate, the more you learn.

A simulator allows you to gain experience with situations that you may never
encounter in real life. While simulation isn't perfect, the knowledge you gain
from the simulation of a specific situation is more useful than no knowledge
at all ... especially if that particular situation actually arises (I think Al
Haynes would agree with that).

DUH, AUTO LAND........ HELLO, anybody out there.

PILOTS LAND THE PLANE in VMC.in the real world.

Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.

I think if you do a quick search on YouTube, you'll find that lots of landings
take place in IMC, including computer-controlled autolands in very low
visibility (apparently Cat IIIc autolands in zero visibility are not actually
done because of the difficulty in taxiing to the gate thereafter).

As Jim already pointed out, YOU DON'T land anything. YOU SIMULATE
LANDING on MSFS.

I land in the simulator.

WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT SIMULATION?????

I might be tempted to ask the same question.

On Jun 24, 7:53*pm, " wrote:
On Jun 24, 4:49*pm, wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

CORRECTION to my post above - You land a plane under VMC conditions
(VISUAL)

Almost, but not quite. Aircraft land in IMC all the time, and I've done it
many times.

Then YOU DID NOT SIMULATE LANDING THE PLANE. *Did you????????????

DUH, AUTO LAND........ HELLO, anybody out there.

PILOTS LAND THE PLANE in VMC.in the real world.

As Jim already pointed out, YOU DON'T land anything. *YOU SIMULATE
LANDING on MSFS.

WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT SIMULATION?????

Is there a point to this 'debate'? We know the rules of the game MX
plays, Continue if you enjoy being played.

writes:

YOU GET MUSHY CONTROLS IN MSFS????????????

If I make enough mistakes, yes.

THEN YOU DON'T FLY A REAL PLANE IF YOU THINK PHOTOGRAPHY ANSD S&R IS
THE ONLY TIME YOU DO SLOW FLIGHT..

I didn't say anything about it being the only time.

YOU LAND A PLANE UNDER VFR, NOT IFR.

Airplanes are landed under IFR every minute of every day. I've done autolands,
too, which have had no visual component at all.