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Old June 23rd 10, 11:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,rec.arts.movies.past-films,rec.arts.tv,alt.gossip.celebrities
Mxsmanic
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Hatunen writes:

REally. That's their last words?


Well, it's a saying, not a finding of fact. It illustrates a point, namely,
that thrillseeking behavior is incompatible with safe, normal flight.

I would have though the last
words would be something more like "AAW ****!!!".


Yes, this is supported by the data, along with things like "Uh-oh" or "Amy, I
love you."

You obviously haven't been on some flights I've been on.


I fly only with safe, major carriers if I can.

Again, I suspect you haven't been on some of the routes I've been
on in small planes.


Turbulence is one thing. Pilot incompetence is another.
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Old June 24th 10, 02:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,rec.arts.movies.past-films,rec.arts.tv,alt.gossip.celebrities
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 00:50:24 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Hatunen writes:

REally. That's their last words?


Well, it's a saying, not a finding of fact.


Ah. and jsut who says it?

It illustrates a point, namely,
that thrillseeking behavior is incompatible with safe, normal flight.


Whoa. No ****? I woulda never thunk it.

I would have though the last
words would be something more like "AAW ****!!!".


Yes, this is supported by the data, along with things like "Uh-oh" or "Amy, I
love you."


But you said the last words were "Watch this"; nowreally, which
ones are the last words?

You obviously haven't been on some flights I've been on.


I fly only with safe, major carriers if I can.


Never hit a major downdraft in a safe, major carrier, then?

Again, I suspect you haven't been on some of the routes I've been
on in small planes.


Turbulence is one thing. Pilot incompetence is another.


Uh. Well, yeah. But you said there weren't any sensations, not
that turbulence was due to pilot incompetence. Or are you NOT
saying turbulence is due to pilot incompetence? It's a bit
unclear.

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Old June 24th 10, 11:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,rec.arts.movies.past-films,rec.arts.tv,alt.gossip.celebrities
Mxsmanic
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Hatunen writes:

Ah. and jsut who says it?


I've heard it repeated in aviation circles many times.

Whoa. No ****? I woulda never thunk it.


An advantage to USENET is that it can expose you to ideas that might never
have crossed your mind previously.

But you said the last words were "Watch this"; nowreally, which
ones are the last words?


Small aircraft don't have CVRs.

Never hit a major downdraft in a safe, major carrier, then?


None that I found alarming. Downdrafts are harmless as long as you're well
above terrain.

Uh. Well, yeah. But you said there weren't any sensations ...


Where?
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Old June 24th 10, 10:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,rec.arts.movies.past-films,rec.arts.tv,alt.gossip.celebrities
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On Jun 24, 10:05*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

None that I found alarming. Downdrafts are harmless as long as you're well
above terrain.



Rotor ???????
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Old June 24th 10, 10:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,rec.arts.movies.past-films,rec.arts.tv,alt.gossip.celebrities
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george writes:

On Jun 24, 10:05*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

None that I found alarming. Downdrafts are harmless as long as you're well
above terrain.



Rotor ???????


Thunderstorm? Hurricane? Tornado? Nuclear explosion?

I don't recall losing 15,000 feet in a rotor on a commercial flight, but I
suppose anything is possible. A handful of exceptions does not disprove the
rule.
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Old June 24th 10, 10:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,rec.arts.movies.past-films,rec.arts.tv,alt.gossip.celebrities
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Mxsmanic wrote:

george writes:

On Jun 24, 10:05 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

None that I found alarming. Downdrafts are harmless as long as you're well
above terrain.



Rotor ???????


Thunderstorm? Hurricane? Tornado? Nuclear explosion?

I don't recall losing 15,000 feet in a rotor on a commercial flight, but I
suppose anything is possible. A handful of exceptions does not disprove the
rule.


which version of microsoft flight simulator do you use?
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Old June 24th 10, 10:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,rec.arts.movies.past-films,rec.arts.tv,alt.gossip.celebrities
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The Starmaker writes:

which version of microsoft flight simulator do you use?


FS 2004 (also called FS9)
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Old June 24th 10, 10:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
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In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:


A handful of exceptions does not disprove the
rule.


Yet you seem to use exceptions quite frequently to "prove" you are correct.

Case in point: that some model C150s are prohibited from spinning to prove
pilots are doing reckless spinning.


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Old June 25th 10, 05:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,rec.arts.movies.past-films,rec.arts.tv,alt.gossip.celebrities
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 14:09:40 -0700 (PDT), george
wrote:

On Jun 24, 10:05*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

None that I found alarming. Downdrafts are harmless as long as you're well
above terrain.



Rotor ???????


Mixie needs to tell that to the people who wer e seriously
injured recntly when a jetliner did a sudden dror in altitude of
several thousand feet.

But the plane came out OK. Maybe that's what he meant.

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Old June 25th 10, 04:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,rec.arts.movies.past-films,rec.arts.tv,alt.gossip.celebrities
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Hatunen writes:

Mixie needs to tell that to the people who wer e seriously
injured recntly when a jetliner did a sudden dror in altitude of
several thousand feet.

But the plane came out OK. Maybe that's what he meant.


Passengers who fail to keep their seat belts fastened risk injury even in
moderate turbulence that is harmless to the aircraft.
 




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