Co-pilot gets sick, stewardess helps land airplane

george writes:

No matter what the aircraft is there are basics.

It takes a lot more than basics to fly a 747. In a Cessna 152, there isn't
much else beyond the basics, but in a large commercial airliner, almost
everything is beyond the basics.

A pilot's license does not confer instant knowledge of all systems and all
details of all aircraft. A good pilot knows this.

You demonstrate that you have terms which do not equate to what we
actually do. Sure your word salad looks impressive but that's all it
is just word salad.

Not to a qualified pilot of the aircraft in question. In fact, almost
everything I named is on one or two displays in a large jet, and of course a
pilot of such is expected to know what they are and where they are.

On Jun 27, 1:35*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
george writes:
No matter what the aircraft is there are basics.

It takes a lot more than basics to fly a 747. *In a Cessna 152, there isn't
much else beyond the basics, but in a large commercial airliner, almost
everything is beyond the basics.

A pilot's license does not confer instant knowledge of all systems and all
details of all aircraft. A good pilot knows this.

That is why we have ratings.
You -do- understand what I mean by ratings?

george writes:

That is why we have ratings.

How so?

On Jun 26, 8:35*am, Mxsmanic wrote:

It takes a lot more than basics to fly a 747. *In a Cessna 152, there isn't
much else beyond the basics, but in a large commercial airliner, almost
everything is beyond the basics.

George is right and YOU are WRONG. WRONG AND SO WRONG.

YOU really are CLUELESS about flying an airplane.

Tell this to Sully AND CREW who's glider rating got him to FLY and
LAND a large commercial airliner into the Hudson......

If my memory serves me correct the skies had a very loaded down glider
in the flavor of a 747 going through volcanic ash before they got
their engines restarted. Tell me, what kept that plane flying besides
the basic rules of flight????? LET ME GUESS, YOU WON'T answer.

writes:

George is right and YOU are WRONG. WRONG AND SO WRONG.

How many hours do you have flying 747s again?

Tell this to Sully AND CREW who's glider rating got him to FLY and
LAND a large commercial airliner into the Hudson......

Sullenberger and Skiles ditched the aircraft smoothly because they were
experienced professionals who followed the procedures and kept cool during the
emergency (I bet Sully never types in uppercase). Sullenberger's glider rating
had little to do with it, any more than his experience flying F-4s. He
succeeded mainly due to a very high level of overall competence,
professionalism, and calm under fire. There was no magic single skill that
saved him and the rest of the flight. And he was also lucky.

If my memory serves me correct the skies had a very loaded down glider
in the flavor of a 747 going through volcanic ash before they got
their engines restarted. Tell me, what kept that plane flying besides
the basic rules of flight?????

You're confusing the laws of physics with the rules and procedures of flying.

LET ME GUESS, YOU WON'T answer.

Don't guess. Ask.

On Jun 30, 9:48*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:
George is right and YOU are WRONG. WRONG AND SO WRONG.

How many hours do you have flying 747s again?

Doesn't matter how many hours I have. A 747 without engines is a
glider.

emergency (I bet Sully never types in uppercase). Sullenberger's glider rating
had little to do with it, any more than his experience flying F-4s.

YOU DON"T FLY a real plane. YOU DON'T know from real world
experience. MY UPPER CASE DOESN"T change the fact you are wrong. It
just helps point out the fact. It' was Sully's glider rating that got
him down. YES, that so called lowly rating beneath you because you
can't keep up with a pokey C172.

LET ME REMIND YOU AGAIN, a 747 WITHOUT working engines is a glider.
WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?

You're confusing the laws of physics with the rules and procedures of flying.

DID YOU NOT SAY FLYING is using a yoke and rudder????? The basics of
flying is the same, you pull back on the stick you go up? You push
forward, you go down. A 747 with 4 dead engines is the same as the
Blanic I fly.

Or is it because YOU have no clue what you are talking about.

writes:

Doesn't matter how many hours I have. A 747 without engines is a
glider.

If you can be an authority without any hours in a 747 or glider, why can't I
know anything from study and simulation?

It' was Sully's glider rating that got him down.

That's not what Sully said.

The basics of flying is the same, you pull back on the stick you
go up? You push forward, you go down. A 747 with 4 dead engines
is the same as the Blanic I fly.

I asked you how many hours you have in a 747 because you appear to have no
knowledge of the aircraft, particularly if you believe that a 747 without
engines is just a glider. Large airliners are very complex, even when the
engines are not running, and even an expert glider pilot will be in a heap of
trouble if he has to fly one of them without any knowledge beyond his gliding
skills.

On Jun 30, 1:23*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

and even an expert glider pilot will be in a heap of
trouble if he has to fly one of them without any knowledge beyond his gliding
skills.

And what is your experience to back this up. Let me guess. ZERO.
What is your experience to back up what you say for real world
flying????? Can we say ZERO.

Now that I have entered the gliding arena, YOU ARE SO WRONG in the
above, you just have no clue. I have learned more about flying in my
15 flights in a Blanick then I did in my almost 10 years in a Cessna
and Sundowner.

I would take my chances with me in a dead stick 747 landing over your
MSFS experience anyday. It may not be pretty but I would have a
chance where as YOU WOULD HAVE ZERO CHANCE.

WHY??? If you don't know why then it's obvious you don't fly a real
plane AND HAVE NO CLUE WHAT IT TAKES TO FLY AN AIRPLANE. Alll the
pretty bells and whistles in a 747 mean squat when it comes to dead
engines. You fly it like a glider.

Let me guess, YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT IT TAKES TO FLY A GLIDER. If you
did, you wouldn't be here showing your incompetance!!!!!!!

HELLO, anybody HOME?????

On Jul 1, 6:48*am, " wrote:

And what is your experience to back this up. *Let me guess. ZERO.
What is your experience to back up what you say for real world
flying????? *Can we say ZERO.

He doesn't fly aeroplanes of any type. He never has.
That's why he knows everything about flying..
we are PPLs , CPLs and further up the food chain with hundreds or
thousands of hours as PIC of aircraft from sailplanes, Cessna, Piper
through to B777 so what do we know....