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On Sep 8, 7:41*pm, Carl B wrote:
Modern gliders give very little indications of a stall (another reason
why training in old clunkers like the 2-33 is counterproductive). *Add
a little distraction or a higher priority task (Bee in the cockpit!)

Is a bee in the cockpit enough of a distraction or a higher priority
task than flying
the aircraft. *If you think so you should reread "Fate is the Hunter".

Carl B

my first flight in the LS-7WL I had to deal with a bee in the cockpit,
I did fly the airplane, and I did get it squashed against the canopy
frame............what worried me most was loosing sight of it and
having it get behind me or down my shirt collar.

I've had stinging insects hit the window pillar of my car before and
then lodge between my back and the seat................. unfortunately
the impact with the car didn't kill them, I got stung but I also
ground them to paste between my back and the seat..........yeah, it
hurt a lot..............would not want to deal with that in the
cockpit in the air.

Brad

On Sep 9, 10:15*am, Brad wrote:
On Sep 8, 7:41*pm, Carl B wrote:

Modern gliders give very little indications of a stall (another reason
why training in old clunkers like the 2-33 is counterproductive). *Add
a little distraction or a higher priority task (Bee in the cockpit!)

Is a bee in the cockpit enough of a distraction or a higher priority
task than flying
the aircraft. *If you think so you should reread "Fate is the Hunter"..

Carl B

my first flight in the LS-7WL I had to deal with a bee in the cockpit,
I did fly the airplane, and I did get it squashed against the canopy
frame............what worried me most was loosing sight of it and
having it get behind me or down my shirt collar.

I've had stinging insects hit the window pillar of my car before and
then lodge between my back and the seat................. unfortunately
the impact with the car didn't kill them, I got stung but I also
ground them to paste between my back and the seat..........yeah, it
hurt a lot..............would not want to deal with that in the
cockpit in the air.

Brad

I wonder if some of the many unexplained fatal accidents can be
attributed to bees/snakes/spiders/mice etc. No need to be alergic,
panic may be sufficient to incapacitate...

Ramy

On 9/9/11 3:49 PM, Ramy wrote:
On Sep 9, 10:15 am, wrote:
On Sep 8, 7:41 pm, Carl wrote:

Modern gliders give very little indications of a stall (another reason
why training in old clunkers like the 2-33 is counterproductive). Add
a little distraction or a higher priority task (Bee in the cockpit!)

Is a bee in the cockpit enough of a distraction or a higher priority
task than flying
the aircraft. If you think so you should reread "Fate is the Hunter".

Carl B

my first flight in the LS-7WL I had to deal with a bee in the cockpit,
I did fly the airplane, and I did get it squashed against the canopy
frame............what worried me most was loosing sight of it and
having it get behind me or down my shirt collar.

I've had stinging insects hit the window pillar of my car before and
then lodge between my back and the seat................. unfortunately
the impact with the car didn't kill them, I got stung but I also
ground them to paste between my back and the seat..........yeah, it
hurt a lot..............would not want to deal with that in the
cockpit in the air.

Brad

I wonder if some of the many unexplained fatal accidents can be
attributed to bees/snakes/spiders/mice etc. No need to be alergic,
panic may be sufficient to incapacitate...

Ramy

Your probably thinking of the snake found in a glider undercarriage
recently in Nevada (any idea what type of snake it was?).

There is also the (true) story of hypoxic mice staggering out into a
glider cockpit as the pilot calmly picked them up and tossed them out
the vent window. Those mice, besides filling up the glider with mice
crap (and maybe Hantavirus), maybe fleas, nesting material etc., tend to
chew on things and may also attack those snakes....


Darryl

On Sep 9, 4:17*pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On 9/9/11 3:49 PM, Ramy wrote:









On Sep 9, 10:15 am, *wrote:
On Sep 8, 7:41 pm, Carl *wrote:

Modern gliders give very little indications of a stall (another reason
why training in old clunkers like the 2-33 is counterproductive). *Add
a little distraction or a higher priority task (Bee in the cockpit!)

Is a bee in the cockpit enough of a distraction or a higher priority
task than flying
the aircraft. *If you think so you should reread "Fate is the Hunter".

Carl B

my first flight in the LS-7WL I had to deal with a bee in the cockpit,
I did fly the airplane, and I did get it squashed against the canopy
frame............what worried me most was loosing sight of it and
having it get behind me or down my shirt collar.

I've had stinging insects hit the window pillar of my car before and
then lodge between my back and the seat................. unfortunately
the impact with the car didn't kill them, I got stung but I also
ground them to paste between my back and the seat..........yeah, it
hurt a lot..............would not want to deal with that in the
cockpit in the air.

Brad

I wonder if some of the many unexplained fatal accidents can be
attributed to bees/snakes/spiders/mice etc. No need to be alergic,
panic may be sufficient to incapacitate...

Ramy

Your probably thinking of the snake found in a glider undercarriage
recently in Nevada (any idea what type of snake it was?).

There is also the (true) story of hypoxic mice staggering out into a
glider cockpit as the pilot calmly picked them up and tossed them out
the vent window. Those mice, besides filling up the glider with mice
crap (and maybe Hantavirus), maybe fleas, nesting material etc., tend to
chew on things and may also attack those snakes....

Darryl

years ago when I recovered the wings on my ASK-14 I discovered about 5
mummified baby mice strung out along the spar, it looked like they
were trying to get out of the wing. the wings hung in the corner of
the shop long enough for a mouse to move in and have a family, not
wanting to have them destroy my wood wings I placed a few containers
of mouse-b-gone inside at the root................mama mouse left for
good even tho she had little ones..................I even felt kinda
sad when I ripped off the fabric and discovered this..........

Brad

Hallo Ramy, you wrote at 09.10.2011 00:49

I wonder if some of the many unexplained fatal accidents can be
attributed to bees/snakes/spiders/mice etc. No need to be alergic,
panic may be sufficient to incapacitate...

so the solution of the problem is:

"don't panic!"

SCNR ...

but, seriously: one should to learn to overcome any beginning feeling of
panic to stay calm and maintain his ability of reacting in a rational
manner. One way to achieve this is mental training. Imagine situations
which could lead you into panic. Play through all the options you have;
do this with different settings. Do it repetitively. Ask experienced
pilots how they dealt with similar situations, include their answers in
your imagination. You'll build a couple of possible reactions in the
imagined situations, which can be recalled if you experience such a
situation in reality - and you are mentally used to those situations.
This will make the appearance of panic much more improbable and
effective reactions more probable.

Surely, simulator training is another way to achieve this. But mental
training is a thing you can do (nearly) wherever you are.

regards
Werner