Bush AWOL Story - New theory comes to light

"Tempest" wrote in message
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Kevin Brooks wrote:

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"Tempest" wrote in message
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Leslie Swartz wrote:

And you think "Iran/Contra" was what, exactly?

A criminal act.

What is Clarke's perjury?

Cool! Bring on the perjury charges and the trial. Let's start next
week
or
the summer at the latest! I can't wait to see Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney,
Rice,
Powell, etc. testifying UNDER OATH in a court of Law concerning his
testimony!

They would not have to. Simply bringing the transcripts of his
statements
under oath in 2002 into evidence, versus his statements to the
commission,
under oath, will be enough to hang the clown.

Bring it on.

If Clarke felt there was a problem, he'd be all over the media with
clarifications.

Clarke is selling books.

Oh wait, isn't Rice doing that now?

Rice is an intellegent and articulate woman. Why do you hate strong women?

I guess Bush has a problem.

Bush had a problem.

Now Clarke will be an embarrassment to the Kerry campaign.

"Kevin Brooks" wrote in
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What? You have been hammering the guy because you THOUGHT this was all
definitely tied to his denied transfer request, and come to find out
you have no earthly idea what ET is? OK, I'll let you off the hook a
bit--equivalent training. Performed by a Guardsman who can't attend
the normally scheduled drills with his unit; may be performed either
with the home unit or another unit (as in this case). Not uncommon at
all. Unfortunately, in my experience, screwing up the tracking and
recordation of ET is also not uncommon.

Bush transfer request denial specifically said it was *not* equivalent:

http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc5.gif

"Application for Reserve Assignment, Bush, George W, 1sr Lt

"TAG Texas

"1. Application for Reserve Assignment for First Lieutenant Bush is
returned.

"2. A review of his Master Personel Record shows he has a Military Service
Obligation until 26 May 1974. Under provisions of paragraph 30-6 n (4),
AFM 35-3, an obligated Reservist can be assigned to a specific Ready
Reserve position only. Therefore, he is ineligible for assignment to an
Air Reserve Squadron."

signed by The Director of Personnel Resources on 24 May 1972.

BUt hey - maybe you should call this guy:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/03/27/cou...ial/index.html

Maybe you can tell him all about "ET"
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"We gave Hussein a chance to allow inspectors in, and he wouldn't let them
in."
- George WMD. Bush, lying on July 14, 2003.

"David Hartung" wrote in
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"Republican Double Standard" wrote in
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Chad Irby wrote in
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Republican Double Standard wrote:

Why is that Kerry's statements to congress in 1971 are of critical
importance, but Bush AWOL/Desertion/HRP failure/failure to show up
for a drug test all "ancient history"?

Because there are documents and witnesses to *support* the Kerry
story, but all of the documents and witnesses *disprove* the Bush
story.


Well, in fairness, there is a dentist who can corroborate Bush's
presence at Danelly at least one day in that year. Unfortunately,
Bush's transfer
to
Dannelly was rejected.

Just out of curiosity, what military or Guard experience do you have?




I can see it now: "You were never in the guard so you are not allowed to
discuss this."

I was in the VA for several years. Does that count? Not that I care
either way, but what's your experience?

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"We gave Hussein a chance to allow inspectors in, and he wouldn't let
them in."
- George WMD. Bush, lying on July 14, 2003.

"Leslie Swartz" wrote in
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Dear Anonymous Smear Liar:

Because one issue refers to Reality; the other, Fantasy.

Steve Swartz

And you can prove both assertions? Or do you subscribe to the Condoleeza
Rice version of telling the truth?


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"We gave Hussein a chance to allow inspectors in, and he wouldn't let them
in."
- George WMD. Bush, lying on July 14, 2003.

"Leslie Swartz" wrote in
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Dear Anonymous Smear Poster:

Please seek help.

No substantive refutations. Just name calling and ad hominems. Well, you
hit the plonk file faster than most.

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"We gave Hussein a chance to allow inspectors in, and he wouldn't let them
in."
- George WMD. Bush, lying on July 14, 2003.

Tempest wrote in
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Leslie Swartz wrote:

Dear Anonymous Smear Poster:

Give Terry M. and the boys my best- see you in November.

Steve Swartz

Who the **** are you Steve or Leslie?

Whichever it is, you're no more than a troll.

A very poor one at that.

I read 4 posts by Steleslie. They all said exactly the same thing. No
ability to engage in any form of discussion. Just name calling and ad
hominems. And top-posted to boot. Rapid fire plonk file fodder.


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"We gave Hussein a chance to allow inspectors in, and he wouldn't let them
in."
- George WMD. Bush, lying on July 14, 2003.

Chad Irby wrote in
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Tempest wrote:

What documents disprove the Bush story?

There's a lot of documents that prove Bush went AWOL.

Official government documents.

www.awolbush.com

Funny... anyone who knows anything about how USAF paperwork is worded
and used will see that he served his time, and didn't get into any
trouble. The site authors seem to have trouble wit hteh phrase
"inactive reserves" and the concept of "exigencies of service."

The authors of that site did a lot of backflips to try and pretend
that he did something wrong, but it's not in the documents at that
site.


http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc9.gif

"Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period of
report. A civilian occupation made it necessary for him to move to
Montgomery, Alabama. He cleared this base on 15 May 1972 and has been
performing equivalent training in a non-flying status with the 187 TAC
recon Gp, Dannelly ANG Base, Alabama."

[signed]
"William D. Harris, Jr. Lt Col. Pilot, Flt Intcp"
"Jerry D. Killian, Lt. Col. Squadron Commander"

Both signatures dated 2 May 1973 [50 weeks after the date Bush "cleared
this base."]

http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc5.gif

"Application for Reserve Assignment, Bush, George W, 1sr Lt

"TAG Texas

"1. Application for Reserve Assignment for First Lieutenant Bush is
returned.

"2. A review of his Master Personel Record shows he has a Military
Service Obligation until 26 May 1974. Under provisions of paragraph 30-6
n (4), AFM 35-3, an obligated Reservist can be assigned to a specific
Ready Reserve position only. Therefore, he is ineligible for assignment
to an Air Reserve Squadron."

signed by The Director of Personnel Resources on 24 May 1972.

9 days *after* Bush "cleared" his prior posting. Bush failed to return
to his post in Texas for another 47 weeks after that. That is desertion
of duty. You cannot spin it any other way. You can pull strings (if your
Poppy) but you cannot change the fact that Bush's transfer request was
denied and he still failed to return to his post for nearly a year.


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"We gave Hussein a chance to allow inspectors in, and he wouldn't let
them in."
- George WMD. Bush, lying on July 14, 2003.

Republican Double Standard wrote:

Tempest wrote in
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Leslie Swartz wrote:

Dear Anonymous Smear Poster:

Give Terry M. and the boys my best- see you in November.

Steve Swartz

Who the **** are you Steve or Leslie?

Whichever it is, you're no more than a troll.

A very poor one at that.

I read 4 posts by Steleslie. They all said exactly the same thing. No
ability to engage in any form of discussion. Just name calling and ad
hominems. And top-posted to boot. Rapid fire plonk file fodder.

Only took two posts before I dumped her/him/it into the bit bucket.

--
"The tyranny of a prince is not so dangerous to the public welfare as
the apathy of a citizen in a democracy."
- Baron de Montesquieu, 1748

Tempest wrote in news:4065DBC0.E628B458
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Republican Double Standard wrote:

Tempest wrote in
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Leslie Swartz wrote:

Dear Anonymous Smear Poster:

Give Terry M. and the boys my best- see you in November.

Steve Swartz

Who the **** are you Steve or Leslie?

Whichever it is, you're no more than a troll.

A very poor one at that.

I read 4 posts by Steleslie. They all said exactly the same thing. No
ability to engage in any form of discussion. Just name calling and ad
hominems. And top-posted to boot. Rapid fire plonk file fodder.

Only took two posts before I dumped her/him/it into the bit bucket.


Well you know - I like to cut everyone a little slack. Even Blind Bill
Bonde hasn't hit the plonk file yet.

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"We gave Hussein a chance to allow inspectors in, and he wouldn't let
them in."
- George WMD. Bush, lying on July 14, 2003.

"Republican Double Standard" wrote in message
. 1.4...
Chad Irby wrote in
news


The authors of that site did a lot of backflips to try and pretend
that he did something wrong, but it's not in the documents at that
site.


http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc9.gif

"Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period of
report. A civilian occupation made it necessary for him to move to
Montgomery, Alabama. He cleared this base on 15 May 1972 and has been
performing equivalent training in a non-flying status with the 187 TAC
recon Gp, Dannelly ANG Base, Alabama."

How do you suppose your zero knowledge of the military stacks up to Chad's
long association with the militar, sock troll? Do Democrats suppose that
comming to the military newsgrups and insulting the military they will
garner votes for November?

The pest troll just keeps getting stupider and stupider.