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Well here is what I did. I was flying behind an ASW24 in my LS6. We were comparing how the two ships performed while doing some wing overs and other stuff to burn off some excess altitude. At the top of the last wing over, the pilot in front of me rolled it inverted and pulled it in to a Split S. Without thinking about it too much I repeated the Split S a few seconds later. The rapid advance of the ASI towards red line was impressive and relentless. I pulled back some, nothing much happened, I pulled back some more, nothing much happened, I pulled the stick back to the stop and started cursing at everyone involved in this stupid decision, and finally the nose came back to a normal distance below the horizon rather than its previous straight down orientation. Nothing broke, cracked, acted weird, or got bent, but when I conferred with the other pilot on the ground, we both decided that we were not going to do that again, and we both needed a beer before going home.
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On 2/11/2015 11:25 AM, SF wrote:
Well here is what I did... Snip... Without thinking about it too much I repeated the Split S a few seconds later. The rapid advance of the ASI towards red line was impressive and relentless. Between this and JJ's recent "thunderstorm" thread, methinks we're seeing evidence of winter in the northern hemisphere; contributors are willing to share some survived sillinesses! That's a good thing, and I thank all for sharing. I happened to read the original question posed in this thread ("If you inadvertently fly into the yellow range and kiss the red range, and you get into the high speed vibration, what is the best way to slow before the wings depart the glider. My sense is to reach for the spoilers and slowly extend to slow.") late in the PM before retiring to Zonkland, and will admit the 2nd/declarative sentence, and a personally compelling interest in soaring safety, triggered a mental alarm bell. I'll elaborate on "Why?" shortly. But first, even if the question is simply a cleverly designed attempt to initiate a broad-in-scope discussion (as distinct from reflecting the O.P.'s personal/presently-felt state of knowledge), it's a good one! The devil is always in the details, and the details of gliders' load-bearing construction commonly include structures composed of wood, steel tube and fabric, sheet aluminum, 1st-generation fiberglass, and carbon fiber. Each has distinctly different toleration to "high speed vibration"...which itself is a concept worthy of lengthy definition, perhaps! Bottom line is these details may prove to be compellingly important to Joe PIC, particularly in the time granted by the structure to implement "the proper response." Arguably, 1st-generation glass structures may simultaneously be most likely display to "high speed vibration", and, to grant Joe PIC the greatest length of time to correct it before something disastrous happens to the structure; wood and sheet metal may be least generous with pre-failure time. Regardless of structure, "high speed vibration" *will* get your attention...as well it should! I could be reading way too much into original question/and "sense" of the O.P., but here's why the sentence pair triggered an alarm bell. Is any reader aware of any glider manufacturer's ship documentation that recommends as the *first* corrective step for anything (other than pattern work, and perhaps, tow-related height correction) to open the spoilers? Others have sensibly noted several structural reasons that doing so at "too high a speed" may be distinctly unwise, and I'm a fan of undoing first what caused the problem...which in the case of high speed, certainly wasn't the spoilers. So...no snark intended in my original reply. Anyone who finds themselves with a case of "inadvertent imminent overspeed" surely had BETTER be alarmed, and, have a sensible, pre-planned course of action ready for immediate implementation. Good, thought-provoking scenario... Bob W. P.S. My own glider thunderstorm story involves the usual "made sense at the time" rationales, resulted in a go-around initiated on short final from the full-flap condition in an HP-14, in blinding rain and strong lift, in order to avoid an overshoot into a tree lined mini-canyon/defile. It happened with somewhere between 300 and 400 total hours...and served as "fair warning" regarding thunderstorms...not that I should have needed - or been granted - any. Even though I got away with it, I really should've landed out at the last usable field 10 or so miles away. My most compelling rationale for continuing was a really lousy trailer, though wanting to complete the contest task played a part too. As I recall, only 4 or 5 of 30 did...and it wasn't the thunderstorm over the field that put 'em on the ground! |
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