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Am Sonntag, 15. Februar 2015 13:31:56 UTC+1 schrieb Martin Gregorie:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 00:55:07 -0800, Kilo-Bravo wrote: All together, inclusive the people from the developing-crew convinced me, that a Light-Version, as I prefered it, would not make any sence. 1. building a full-version will cost somthing like 40-50 EURO more then the light-version. 2. additional time for the build is minor 3. building the full version would include an E-Vario in display as well, so I could take my Borgelt E-Vario out of the panel Taking out the Borgelt will not only reduce weigt of 550 Gramms, but also gives lot of additional space to go for a 7" display. Yes, I'd agree with that, but if you're going for all electronic varios, you might want to retain something like a 57mm Borgelt B.40 or a Tasmin V1000 as a backup vario. Both can run for about a day from a 9V Duracell battery, so would get you home in the case of a main battery failure. Touch-screen has also been obandoned, now I ended up with a stick-remote as well. OK. I don't want to go that way: take a look a a Libelle's stick next time you're near one and you'll see that, because of the 'automatic' trim mechanics, it would be almost impossible to run wires from that switch set down inside the stick: It was bad enough getting a pair through for the radio's PTT switch, so abandoning the idea of a touch screen option is bad news for me. I heard last night that LK8000 for Linux is getting close to release, so this would make a port of it to a RaspberryPi with a touch screen a more attractive option for me. Thermals, Martin -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | Martin, a very nice layout for the Libelle, youŽll find at the facebook-site of Stefan Langer. There you see, that it also works fine in the Libelle-panel. He also uses a stick-remote with all functions. So it must be possible, to get all cables through the tube of the stick. But if you need informations about that, you better contact Stefan directly via Facebook for advice. Facebook-Link: https://www.facebook.com/45323828144...type=1&theater Regards from Germany Klaus |
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On Sunday, February 15, 2015 at 8:18:42 AM UTC-5, Kilo-Bravo wrote:
Am Sonntag, 15. Februar 2015 13:31:56 UTC+1 schrieb Martin Gregorie: On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 00:55:07 -0800, Kilo-Bravo wrote: All together, inclusive the people from the developing-crew convinced me, that a Light-Version, as I prefered it, would not make any sence. 1. building a full-version will cost somthing like 40-50 EURO more then the light-version. 2. additional time for the build is minor 3. building the full version would include an E-Vario in display as well, so I could take my Borgelt E-Vario out of the panel Taking out the Borgelt will not only reduce weigt of 550 Gramms, but also gives lot of additional space to go for a 7" display. Yes, I'd agree with that, but if you're going for all electronic varios, you might want to retain something like a 57mm Borgelt B.40 or a Tasmin V1000 as a backup vario. Both can run for about a day from a 9V Duracell battery, so would get you home in the case of a main battery failure. Touch-screen has also been obandoned, now I ended up with a stick-remote as well. OK. I don't want to go that way: take a look a a Libelle's stick next time you're near one and you'll see that, because of the 'automatic' trim mechanics, it would be almost impossible to run wires from that switch set down inside the stick: It was bad enough getting a pair through for the radio's PTT switch, so abandoning the idea of a touch screen option is bad news for me. I heard last night that LK8000 for Linux is getting close to release, so this would make a port of it to a RaspberryPi with a touch screen a more attractive option for me. Thermals, Martin -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | Martin, a very nice layout for the Libelle, youŽll find at the facebook-site of Stefan Langer. There you see, that it also works fine in the Libelle-panel.. He also uses a stick-remote with all functions. So it must be possible, to get all cables through the tube of the stick. But if you need informations about that, you better contact Stefan directly via Facebook for advice. Facebook-Link: https://www.facebook.com/45323828144...type=1&theater Regards from Germany Klaus Looking in this picture... https://www.facebook.com/45323828144...e=1&permPage=1 I'm guessing the cables run inside the tube in the vertical, but look to be on the outside/bottom (see the ty-wraps?) on the horizontal. |
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Am Sonntag, 15. Februar 2015 18:49:22 UTC+1 schrieb Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot):
On Sunday, February 15, 2015 at 8:18:42 AM UTC-5, Kilo-Bravo wrote: Am Sonntag, 15. Februar 2015 13:31:56 UTC+1 schrieb Martin Gregorie: On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 00:55:07 -0800, Kilo-Bravo wrote: All together, inclusive the people from the developing-crew convinced me, that a Light-Version, as I prefered it, would not make any sence. 1. building a full-version will cost somthing like 40-50 EURO more then the light-version. 2. additional time for the build is minor 3. building the full version would include an E-Vario in display as well, so I could take my Borgelt E-Vario out of the panel Taking out the Borgelt will not only reduce weigt of 550 Gramms, but also gives lot of additional space to go for a 7" display. Yes, I'd agree with that, but if you're going for all electronic varios, you might want to retain something like a 57mm Borgelt B.40 or a Tasmin V1000 as a backup vario. Both can run for about a day from a 9V Duracell battery, so would get you home in the case of a main battery failure. Touch-screen has also been obandoned, now I ended up with a stick-remote as well. OK. I don't want to go that way: take a look a a Libelle's stick next time you're near one and you'll see that, because of the 'automatic' trim mechanics, it would be almost impossible to run wires from that switch set down inside the stick: It was bad enough getting a pair through for the radio's PTT switch, so abandoning the idea of a touch screen option is bad news for me. I heard last night that LK8000 for Linux is getting close to release, so this would make a port of it to a RaspberryPi with a touch screen a more attractive option for me. Thermals, Martin -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | Martin, a very nice layout for the Libelle, youŽll find at the facebook-site of Stefan Langer. There you see, that it also works fine in the Libelle-panel. He also uses a stick-remote with all functions. So it must be possible, to get all cables through the tube of the stick. But if you need informations about that, you better contact Stefan directly via Facebook for advice. Facebook-Link: https://www.facebook.com/45323828144...type=1&theater Regards from Germany Klaus Looking in this picture... https://www.facebook.com/45323828144...e=1&permPage=1 I'm guessing the cables run inside the tube in the vertical, but look to be on the outside/bottom (see the ty-wraps?) on the horizontal. Yes, thats correct. Goeing downwards inside the stick-handle and follow the vertical outside underneath. Rgds Klaus |
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 09:49:20 -0800, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)
wrote: Looking in this picture... https://www.facebook.com/453238281445186/photos/ pb.453238281445186.-2207520000.1424006006./475975595838121/? type=1&permPage=1 I'm guessing the cables run inside the tube in the vertical, but look to be on the outside/bottom (see the ty-wraps?) on the horizontal. I see what he's done. The cable bundle is never inside the metal Z-tube that forms the stick's structure. Instead, the wires run down the outside of the tube but within the body of the much larger carbon moulding. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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Am Sonntag, 15. Februar 2015 20:58:20 UTC+1 schrieb Martin Gregorie:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 09:49:20 -0800, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote: Looking in this picture... https://www.facebook.com/453238281445186/photos/ pb.453238281445186.-2207520000.1424006006./475975595838121/? type=1&permPage=1 I'm guessing the cables run inside the tube in the vertical, but look to be on the outside/bottom (see the ty-wraps?) on the horizontal. I see what he's done. The cable bundle is never inside the metal Z-tube that forms the stick's structure. Instead, the wires run down the outside of the tube but within the body of the much larger carbon moulding. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | Thats correct. Rgds Klaus |
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