Siemens' 110 lb world-record electric aircraft motor produce 348 hp at 2,500 RPM

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On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 11:20:42 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 6:51:57 PM UTC-5, Vaughn Simon wrote:
On 11/14/2015 5:14 PM, wrote:
As researchers continue to work on creating better
batteries, the logical solution all along was always
the Auxiliary Power Unit for charging.

Well yes that will work (assuming an electric drive train with a
battery) , ...as long as that APU produces significantly MORE power than
the average that you will need at the prop hub. The reason why you
would need MORE power is to make up for the losses inherent in the
generator, motor, battery, and controller.

Also, I forgot to mention that I'm a professional
designer and illustrator, formerly with Lockheed-
Martin. Within this electric airplane concept which
would sustain these very long ranges with an RTG,
is a series of conforming "mini-tanks" which encapsulate major
electrical components. Holding no more than 5 gallons
total, you top them off with liquid nitrogen. This
cryogenic sealed system effectively turns your electrical
system into a zero-resistance super conductor. Control
surfaces are best facilitated with servos and fly by
wire software.

This may sound a little exotic, but other people have
verified the plausibility and science behind it. A
home-build isn't out of the question. With generator,
super conduction, and fast charge NON-lithium batteries,
the range may really be how long you can sit in a seat.

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Anyway...

Basic Aircraft Electrical Systems

Some very simple single engine aircraft do not have an electrical system installed. The piston engine is equiped with a Magneto ignition system, which is self powering, and the fuel tank is situated so it will gravity feed the engine. The aircraft is started by means of a flywheel and crank arrangement or by "hand-proping" the engine.

If an electric starter, lights, electric flight instruments, navigation aids or radios are desired, an electrical system becomes a necessity. In most cases, the system will be DC powered using a single distribution bus, a single battery and a single engine driven generator or alternator. Provisions, in the form of an on/off switch, will be incorporated to allow the battery to be isolated from the bus and for the generator/alternator to be isolated from the bus. An ammeter, loadmeter or warning light will also be incorporated to provide an indication of charging system failure. Electrical components will be wired to the bus-bar incorporating either circuit breakers or fuses for circuit protection. Provisions may be provided to allow an external power source such as an extra battery or a Ground Power Unit to be connected to assist with the engine start or to provide power whilst the engine is not running.

Advanced Aircraft Electrical Systems

More sophisticated electrical systems are usually multiple voltage systems using a combination of AC and DC buses to power various aircraft components. Primary power generation is normally AC with one or more Transformer Rectifier Unit (TRU) providing conversion to DC voltage to power the DC busses. Secondary AC generation from an APU is usually provided for use on the ground when engines are not running and for airborne use in the event of component failure. Tertiary generation in the form of a hydraulic motor or a RAT may also be incorporated into the system to provide redundancy in the event of multiple failures. Essential AC and DC components are wired to specific busses and special provisions are made to provide power to these busses under almost all failure situations. In the event that all AC power generation is lost, a static Inverter is included in the system so the Essential AC bus can be powered from the aircraft batteries.

Robust system monitoring and failure warning provisions are incorporated into the electrical system and these are presented to the pilots when appropriate. Warnings may include, but are not limited to, generator malfuntion/failure, TRU failure, battery failure, bus fault/failure and circuit breaker monitoring. The manufacturer will also provide detailed electrical system isolation procedures to be utilized in the event of an electrical fire.

In compliance with applicable regulations, components such as Standby Flight Instruments and Emergency Floor Lighting have their own backup power supplies and will function even in the event of a complete electrical system failure.

Provisions are virtually always provided for connecting the aircraft electrical system to a fixed or mobile Ground Power Unit.

http://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/A...trical_Systems

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Yeah, so what?


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Jim Pennino

The concept wherein an "antennae" actually receives the directed
energy while in flight, and recharges your battery bank.


"It remains to be seen exactly what the specifications and consumer reception for Ossia and uBeam's technology will be. Nonetheless, the need for wireless power is real across a variety of applications. From simple consumer cell phones to electric vehicles, wireless power would fill a real need. If power could be transmitted long distances wirelessly, it would completely change "range anxiety" which has held back the EV market."

http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-Ge...ss-Energy.html

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wrote:
The concept wherein an "antennae" actually receives the directed
energy while in flight, and recharges your battery bank.


"It remains to be seen exactly what the specifications and consumer reception for Ossia and uBeam's technology will be. Nonetheless, the need for wireless power is real across a variety of applications. From simple consumer cell phones to electric vehicles, wireless power would fill a real need. If power could be transmitted long distances wirelessly, it would completely change "range anxiety" which has held back the EV market."

http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-Ge...ss-Energy.html

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Unfortunately the laws of physics says this is highly inefficient.

The efficiency is of minor importance when doing things like charge a
cell phone with takes milliwatts, but becomes totally impractical at
the megawatt level it would take to power even a small vehicle.


--
Jim Pennino

On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 5:31:04 PM UTC-5, wrote:
wrote:
The concept wherein an "antennae" actually receives the directed
energy while in flight, and recharges your battery bank.


"It remains to be seen exactly what the specifications and consumer reception for Ossia and uBeam's technology will be. Nonetheless, the need for wireless power is real across a variety of applications. From simple consumer cell phones to electric vehicles, wireless power would fill a real need. If power could be transmitted long distances wirelessly, it would completely change "range anxiety" which has held back the EV market."

http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-Ge...ss-Energy.html

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Unfortunately the laws of physics says this is highly inefficient.

The efficiency is of minor importance when doing things like charge a
cell phone with takes milliwatts, but becomes totally impractical at
the megawatt level it would take to power even a small vehicle.

In a weak coupling at resonance, magnetic resonance couplings can transfer energy with high efficiency. The specification results at high power are proposed. In this paper, the feasibility of wireless power transfer with large air gaps and high efficiency by small sized antennas that can be equipped on the bottom of EVs is proposed.

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login...er% 3D5289747

wrote:
On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 5:31:04 PM UTC-5, wrote:
wrote:
The concept wherein an "antennae" actually receives the directed
energy while in flight, and recharges your battery bank.


"It remains to be seen exactly what the specifications and consumer reception for Ossia and uBeam's technology will be. Nonetheless, the need for wireless power is real across a variety of applications. From simple consumer cell phones to electric vehicles, wireless power would fill a real need. If power could be transmitted long distances wirelessly, it would completely change "range anxiety" which has held back the EV market."

http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-Ge...ss-Energy.html

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Unfortunately the laws of physics says this is highly inefficient.

The efficiency is of minor importance when doing things like charge a
cell phone with takes milliwatts, but becomes totally impractical at
the megawatt level it would take to power even a small vehicle.

In a weak coupling at resonance, magnetic resonance couplings can transfer energy with high efficiency. The specification results at high power are proposed. In this paper, the feasibility of wireless power transfer with large air gaps and high efficiency by small sized antennas that can be equipped on the bottom of EVs is proposed.

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login...er% 3D5289747


Non sequitur.

FYI there was a pilot project to test magnetic resonance couplings for
vehicle power on roadways; too expensive to be practical.


--
Jim Pennino

On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 5:31:04 PM UTC-5,
Unfortunately the laws of physics says this is highly inefficient.

The efficiency is of minor importance when doing things like charge a
cell phone with takes milliwatts, but becomes totally impractical at
the megawatt level it would take to power even a small vehicle.


--
Jim Pennino

A circuit model is presented along with a derivation of key system concepts, such as frequency splitting, the maximum operating distance (critical coupling), and the behavior of the system as it becomes undercoupled. This theoretical model is validated against measured data and shows an excellent average coefficient of determination of 0.9875. An adaptive frequency tuning technique is demonstrated, which compensates for efficiency variations encountered when the transmitter-to-receiver distance and/or orientation are varied.

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login...er% 3D5437250

wrote:
On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 5:31:04 PM UTC-5,
Unfortunately the laws of physics says this is highly inefficient.

The efficiency is of minor importance when doing things like charge a
cell phone with takes milliwatts, but becomes totally impractical at
the megawatt level it would take to power even a small vehicle.


--
Jim Pennino

A circuit model is presented along with a derivation of key system concepts, such as frequency splitting, the maximum operating distance (critical coupling), and the behavior of the system as it becomes undercoupled. This theoretical model is validated against measured data and shows an excellent average coefficient of determination of 0.9875. An adaptive frequency tuning technique is demonstrated, which compensates for efficiency variations encountered when the transmitter-to-receiver distance and/or orientation are varied.

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login...er% 3D5437250

Ignores the reality of flight.


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Jim Pennino

On 11/19/2015 7:24 PM, wrote:
Ignores the reality of flight.

....and of physics

I figured that out after posting once to this thread. You are wasting
time and keystrokes Jim. I decided to apply the old saying, "Don't feed
the trolls."

On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 5:31:04 PM UTC-5, wrote:
wrote:
The concept wherein an "antennae" actually receives the directed
energy while in flight, and recharges your battery bank.


"It remains to be seen exactly what the specifications and consumer reception for Ossia and uBeam's technology will be. Nonetheless, the need for wireless power is real across a variety of applications. From simple consumer cell phones to electric vehicles, wireless power would fill a real need. If power could be transmitted long distances wirelessly, it would completely change "range anxiety" which has held back the EV market."

http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-Ge...ss-Energy.html

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Unfortunately the laws of physics says this is highly inefficient.

The efficiency is of minor importance when doing things like charge a
cell phone with takes milliwatts, but becomes totally impractical at
the megawatt level it would take to power even a small vehicle.


--
Jim Pennino

Yes, this technology is still in the research stage, and is
not part of the actual blueprints which I hold of an atomic,
cryogenic (artery system) electric, stealth plane.

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wrote:
On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 5:31:04 PM UTC-5, wrote:
wrote:
The concept wherein an "antennae" actually receives the directed
energy while in flight, and recharges your battery bank.


"It remains to be seen exactly what the specifications and consumer reception for Ossia and uBeam's technology will be. Nonetheless, the need for wireless power is real across a variety of applications. From simple consumer cell phones to electric vehicles, wireless power would fill a real need. If power could be transmitted long distances wirelessly, it would completely change "range anxiety" which has held back the EV market."

http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-Ge...ss-Energy.html

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Unfortunately the laws of physics says this is highly inefficient.

The efficiency is of minor importance when doing things like charge a
cell phone with takes milliwatts, but becomes totally impractical at
the megawatt level it would take to power even a small vehicle.


--
Jim Pennino

Yes, this technology is still in the research stage, and is
not part of the actual blueprints which I hold of an atomic,
cryogenic (artery system) electric, stealth plane.

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Which part of the laws of physics says this is highly inefficient did
you not understand?


--
Jim Pennino