LX 9000 or CNII?

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 13:43:05 -0800, Dave Springford wrote:

Well, I did say "as long as you have" SeeYou.

Why would any cross-country glider pilot not have SeeYou?

Don't need it - I've got GPLIGC.


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martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

Martin,

If you're a fortunate soul who "gets" Linux, then I'm sure GPLIGC is a good thing for you. Most people I know just get overwhelmed by all of the jargon and seek the simplicity of Windows. GPLIGC

On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 11:12:03 AM UTC-5, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 13:43:05 -0800, Dave Springford wrote:

Well, I did say "as long as you have" SeeYou.

Why would any cross-country glider pilot not have SeeYou?

Don't need it - I've got GPLIGC.


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martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

Finishing my prematurely posted comment:

Martin,

If you're a fortunate soul who "gets" Linux, then I'm sure GPLIGC is a good thing for you. Most people I know just get overwhelmed by all of the jargon and seek the simplicity of Windows. GPLIGC does have a Windows version, but at a minimum one needs to load PERL. That's a show stopper for me...

-John, Q3

On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 11:12:03 AM UTC-5, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 13:43:05 -0800, Dave Springford wrote:

Well, I did say "as long as you have" SeeYou.

Why would any cross-country glider pilot not have SeeYou?

Don't need it - I've got GPLIGC.


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martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 10:29:54 -0800, John Carlyle wrote:

Finishing my prematurely posted comment:

Martin,

If you're a fortunate soul who "gets" Linux, then I'm sure GPLIGC is a
good thing for you. Most people I know just get overwhelmed by all of
the jargon and seek the simplicity of Windows. GPLIGC does have a
Windows version, but at a minimum one needs to load PERL. That's a show
stopper for me...

I've been a Linux user since 1998 and using UNIX and similar systems
since 1984, so I do that stuff without thinking about it. I don't
remember whether I've used Perl under Windows or not.

GPLIGC by and large 'just works', though its interface and command set
aren't exactly intuitive and I'll admit raising a few feature requests
against it, but it will keep me happy for the coming season and its price
is certainly right!


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martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

I've downloaded the GPLIGC zip file and have gotten past the warnings
about zip files being dangerous (won't someone ever take a risk
anymore?). Now I've got to figure out how to unzip it. Windows 8.1 is
such a pain in the ass...

On 11/15/2015 12:05 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 10:29:54 -0800, John Carlyle wrote:

Finishing my prematurely posted comment:

Martin,

If you're a fortunate soul who "gets" Linux, then I'm sure GPLIGC is a
good thing for you. Most people I know just get overwhelmed by all of
the jargon and seek the simplicity of Windows. GPLIGC does have a
Windows version, but at a minimum one needs to load PERL. That's a show
stopper for me...

I've been a Linux user since 1998 and using UNIX and similar systems
since 1984, so I do that stuff without thinking about it. I don't
remember whether I've used Perl under Windows or not.

GPLIGC by and large 'just works', though its interface and command set
aren't exactly intuitive and I'll admit raising a few feature requests
against it, but it will keep me happy for the coming season and its price
is certainly right!



--
Dan, 5J

Le lundi 16 novembre 2015 11:09:04 UTC-5, Dan Marotta a écrit*:
I've downloaded the GPLIGC zip file and have gotten past the
warnings about zip files being dangerous (won't someone ever take a
risk anymore?).* Now I've got to figure out how to unzip it.*
Windows 8.1 is such a pain in the ass...




On 11/15/2015 12:05 PM, Martin Gregorie
wrote:



On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 10:29:54 -0800, John Carlyle wrote:



Finishing my prematurely posted comment:

Martin,

If you're a fortunate soul who "gets" Linux, then I'm sure GPLIGC is a
good thing for you. Most people I know just get overwhelmed by all of
the jargon and seek the simplicity of Windows. GPLIGC does have a
Windows version, but at a minimum one needs to load PERL. That's a show
stopper for me...



I've been a Linux user since 1998 and using UNIX and similar systems
since 1984, so I do that stuff without thinking about it. I don't
remember whether I've used Perl under Windows or not.

GPLIGC by and large 'just works', though its interface and command set
aren't exactly intuitive and I'll admit raising a few feature requests
against it, but it will keep me happy for the coming season and its price
is certainly right!







--

Dan, 5J

Hi

Where does the LX Navigation ZEUS stand compare to these two?

Zeus - I have not flown with it but based on a demo and reports it is now very equivalent to the LX9000. Now, because it started later and had catching up to do.

Two specific points of comparison -
the LX X0X0 range has more flexibility in how you setup the screens using LX Styler than the Zeus, I like this but it would not matter to pilots who use the default setup or something similar.
and the Zeus uses a logger external to the computer unit so will be much easier to arrange calibration checks.

On ease of use in flight - 2 of the things I use most often are volume and zoom, I like having dedicated knobs for these rather than the CN interface. But I am sure the CN wins of these three on ease of use without learning time.

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 09:08:58 -0700, Dan Marotta wrote:

I've downloaded the GPLIGC zip file and have gotten past the warnings
about zip files being dangerous (won't someone ever take a risk
anymore?). Now I've got to figure out how to unzip it. Windows 8.1 is
such a pain in the ass...

Dan,

I can't help with unzipping - sorry (I haven't owned any Windows more
recent than Win95) - except to say that there are a number of FOSS (Free
Open Source) zip programs.

The Linux version has an automated install that assumes that Perl is
already installed and that a C++ compiler is available in case some speed-
boosting code needs to be recompiled - this is SOP for most Linux
programs that are not part of the Linux distribution you're running.

The README file in the ZIP archive says that support, a forum and bug
reporting are all available at

http://sourceforge.net/projects/gpligc/support

The manual (in the ZIP) says that it needs Perl 5 with the Perl/TK module
plus Gnuplot (a Perl drawing module). It also says that, if there are no
downloads for your OS than you'll need a to have a C/C++. Well, the only
download is for all operating systems, so unless you have a C/C++
compiler installed and know how to use it, I suggest you forget about
GPLIGC for a while.

Meanwhile, while checking the website, I've just seen that I'm two
releases out of date and that GPLIGC has now been extended to handle
variable-barrel tasks (which I need) so I've just added updating it to my
todo list.


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martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 21:32:17 +0000, Martin Gregorie wrote:

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 09:08:58 -0700, Dan Marotta wrote:

I've downloaded the GPLIGC zip file and have gotten past the warnings
about zip files being dangerous (won't someone ever take a risk
anymore?). Now I've got to figure out how to unzip it. Windows 8.1 is
such a pain in the ass...

Dan,

I can't help with unzipping - sorry (I haven't owned any Windows more
recent than Win95) - except to say that there are a number of FOSS (Free
Open Source) zip programs.

The Linux version has an automated install that assumes that Perl is
already installed and that a C++ compiler is available in case some
speed-
boosting code needs to be recompiled - this is SOP for most Linux
programs that are not part of the Linux distribution you're running.

The README file in the ZIP archive says that support, a forum and bug
reporting are all available at

http://sourceforge.net/projects/gpligc/support

The manual (in the ZIP) says that it needs Perl 5 with the Perl/TK
module plus Gnuplot (a Perl drawing module). It also says that, if there
are no downloads for your OS than you'll need a to have a C/C++. Well,
the only download is for all operating systems, so unless you have a
C/C++ compiler installed and know how to use it, I suggest you forget
about GPLIGC for a while.

Meanwhile, while checking the website, I've just seen that I'm two
releases out of date and that GPLIGC has now been extended to handle
variable-barrel tasks (which I need) so I've just added updating it to
my todo list.

Begging GPLIGC's pardon: there *are* windows downloads, but there are a
bit hidden. You can find them he

http://sourceforge.net/projects/gpli...es/GPLIGC/1.9/

Download the version that best suits your hardware and Windows version.
The 'src' version is only useful if you have a C/C++ compiler


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martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

Thanks Martin,

Maybe I'll turn it over to my wife. She was a programmer for many years
until wising up and becoming a systems engineer (now retired). :-D

On 11/16/2015 2:32 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 09:08:58 -0700, Dan Marotta wrote:

I've downloaded the GPLIGC zip file and have gotten past the warnings
about zip files being dangerous (won't someone ever take a risk
anymore?). Now I've got to figure out how to unzip it. Windows 8.1 is
such a pain in the ass...

Dan,

I can't help with unzipping - sorry (I haven't owned any Windows more
recent than Win95) - except to say that there are a number of FOSS (Free
Open Source) zip programs.

The Linux version has an automated install that assumes that Perl is
already installed and that a C++ compiler is available in case some speed-
boosting code needs to be recompiled - this is SOP for most Linux
programs that are not part of the Linux distribution you're running.

The README file in the ZIP archive says that support, a forum and bug
reporting are all available at

http://sourceforge.net/projects/gpligc/support

The manual (in the ZIP) says that it needs Perl 5 with the Perl/TK module
plus Gnuplot (a Perl drawing module). It also says that, if there are no
downloads for your OS than you'll need a to have a C/C++. Well, the only
download is for all operating systems, so unless you have a C/C++
compiler installed and know how to use it, I suggest you forget about
GPLIGC for a while.

Meanwhile, while checking the website, I've just seen that I'm two
releases out of date and that GPLIGC has now been extended to handle
variable-barrel tasks (which I need) so I've just added updating it to my
todo list.



--
Dan, 5J