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Old July 24th 16, 06:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default SSA sailplane tracker - too complex

It does work with "all smart phones".

Apple = Glide Track - free
Droid = IGCDroid - $10 one time purchase (free trial)

Lane
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Old July 24th 16, 11:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default SSA sailplane tracker - too complex

Tell me how it will work with my Android smart phone which has no data
plan. I might be interested in trying it then.

On 7/24/2016 11:09 AM, wrote:
It does work with "all smart phones".

Apple = Glide Track - free
Droid = IGCDroid - $10 one time purchase (free trial)

Lane


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Old July 25th 16, 12:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default SSA sailplane tracker - too complex

On Sun, 24 Jul 2016 16:02:18 -0600, Dan Marotta wrote:

Tell me how it will work with my Android smart phone which has no data
plan. I might be interested in trying it then.

Maybe the only way would be something like we have in the UK, but your
population density may be too low to give good coverage.

There is a really cheap FLARM software receiver, that runs on a
RaspberryPi with a small collection of additional hardware that, with a
decent antenna, can pick up FLARM transmissions from up to 50km or so
away. These receivers belong to glider pilots, plane spotters and
(probably) some hams. All feed into a server that publishes maps showing
where the gliders are. For instance, planefinder.net and flightradar24.com
use FLARM to track gliders. I use OGN (glidernet.org) to track gliders
here in the UK. This technology is in use in a lot of countries including
Canada, but not, I note, in USA.



On 7/24/2016 11:09 AM, wrote:
It does work with "all smart phones".

Apple = Glide Track - free Droid = IGCDroid - $10 one time purchase
(free trial)

Lane




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Old July 25th 16, 01:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default SSA sailplane tracker - too complex

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 5:08:59 PM UTC-6, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jul 2016 16:02:18 -0600, Dan Marotta wrote:

Tell me how it will work with my Android smart phone which has no data
plan. I might be interested in trying it then.

Maybe the only way would be something like we have in the UK, but your
population density may be too low to give good coverage.

There is a really cheap FLARM software receiver, that runs on a
RaspberryPi with a small collection of additional hardware that, with a
decent antenna, can pick up FLARM transmissions from up to 50km or so
away. These receivers belong to glider pilots, plane spotters and
(probably) some hams. All feed into a server that publishes maps showing
where the gliders are. For instance, planefinder.net and flightradar24.com
use FLARM to track gliders. I use OGN (glidernet.org) to track gliders
here in the UK. This technology is in use in a lot of countries including
Canada, but not, I note, in USA.



On 7/24/2016 11:09 AM, wrote:
It does work with "all smart phones".

Apple = Glide Track - free Droid = IGCDroid - $10 one time purchase
(free trial)

Lane




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martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |


NOTE: It sure is in the USA with some folks having current ground stations with antennas sticking way up in the air! They currently have 60++ miles range.............

Best #711.
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Old July 25th 16, 08:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Martin Gregorie[_5_]
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Default SSA sailplane tracker - too complex

On Sun, 24 Jul 2016 17:05:33 -0700, Tom Kelley #711 wrote:

NOTE: It sure is in the USA with some folks having current ground
stations with antennas sticking way up in the air! They currently have
60++ miles range.............

.... thanks for the correction, but it appears that none of them are
registered with OGN, which is where I found the country coverage details.


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Old July 25th 16, 01:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default SSA sailplane tracker - too complex

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 1:09:04 PM UTC-4, wrote:
It does work with "all smart phones".


Not on mine, it doesn't (iphone 5). I'm accessing through Safari and I get "Oops, cannot run embedded" with a link to GlidePort, which gives me a map of North America with links I can't get past.

I realize this is all volunteer labor and I applaud the guys who are trying their best. But it would be my preference to see that best effort applied to simpler, more reliable, more useful stuff.

Locating a glider in a field with spot or inreach, but no cell service is the height of useful...

best,
Evan
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Old July 25th 16, 02:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)
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Default SSA sailplane tracker - too complex

I get the same message on a gen-2 Ipad via the Internet through SSA. I do have the option to run "unembedded" via the site though.
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Old July 25th 16, 02:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 5:54:04 PM UTC-7, Tango Eight wrote:
Not on mine, it doesn't (iphone 5). I'm accessing through Safari and I get "Oops, cannot run embedded" with a link to GlidePort, which gives me a map of North America with links I can't get past.


And if you follow the further instructions, you set it up to run un-embedded. It means creating a home page shortcut icon to the URL.

Used to work just fine on my iPhone 4S and really nice on my iPhone 6S+

5Z
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Old July 25th 16, 03:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default SSA sailplane tracker - too complex

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 9:57:02 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 5:54:04 PM UTC-7, Tango Eight wrote:
Not on mine, it doesn't (iphone 5). I'm accessing through Safari and I get "Oops, cannot run embedded" with a link to GlidePort, which gives me a map of North America with links I can't get past.


And if you follow the further instructions, you set it up to run un-embedded. It means creating a home page shortcut icon to the URL.

Used to work just fine on my iPhone 4S and really nice on my iPhone 6S+

5Z


WHAT INSTRUCTIONS? No instructions are evident on my phone. None should be necessary.


best,
Evan

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Old July 25th 16, 05:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Well, I just opened it in Safari, got the message and clicked on "run un-embedded" and it runs "OK".

At this point, what you need to do is tap the "share" icon (square box with arrow pointing up) an choose "Add to home screen" (scroll to the right in the list of icons that begin with "copy". Then when you open the link from the home screen, the safari browser stuff doesn't take up screen real estate.

The iPhone experience is just like on a regular computer. Problem is that the left hand menu takes up most of the screen, so you need to hide and unhide it to see the map. If all you see is the map, then tap the red "" at the upper left of the screen to get a list of countries. Then tap on the grey triangle to the right of the country of interest, then again on the grey triangle of the region or airport of interest.

At this point, hide the left menu and tap on carious pushpin icons to see the track. Hold your finger on the pin to see a popup of the pilot name.

I'm quite sure I learned about adding it to the home screen somewhere on GlidePort, but it's been a long time.

-Tom

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 7:45:50 PM UTC-7, Tango Eight wrote:
WHAT INSTRUCTIONS? No instructions are evident on my phone. None should be necessary.

 




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