What Is Wrong With OLC?

On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 8:47:02 PM UTC-5, Dan Daly wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 7:43:42 PM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
I've been trying for over a year to get the OLC people to fix my login.
I've filled out their help forms too many times to count and they don't
reply and they don't fix the problem. As it stands now, I can not
upload my flights to OLC. When I log in I get a message that states (in
German) that my email address is not valid. But it is valid. And I am
logged on successfully. Then, when I select to upload a flight, I get
the same message stating that my email address is invalid.

Is there anyone listening at OLC? Is there anyone in Europe who can
contact them on my behalf? My email address is
. It is a valid address.

Since I can no longer upload flights, I won't be providing financial
support any more unless it's fixed. Too bad, since I'm currently number
1 at Moriarty and number 14 in the USA.

--
Dan, 5J

Have you done your annual update of your Registration? Go to the list of competitors. Find your name. Go to the right hand side of the form; just past the link to your flights, icon for "contest registration update". Must be done annually. All your info can be correct, but if you don't submit it annually, you aren't valid. Just checking that it is all still correct is not sufficient.

I googled SSA OLC administrator and this was the
at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...ng/xjxyhRaIYLE :
"About

This is the home of the SSA OLC Committee. The OLC Committee handles all OLC related items and coordinates with the FAI and other committees as needed..

The SSA has a Memorandum of Understanding with the OLC that grants us exclusive rights to the OLC in the US. The purpose of this agreement is to provide OLC a point of contact in the US for rules changes, to deal with problems that may arise and to collect money to fund the OLC.

For help with submitting a claim contact us at ."

I have never updated my membership in OLC.

Dan - it seems they just don't like you.

What's really wrong with OLC is that they do not separate pure glider performance from motorglider flights, and that they use DAeC handicaps that are not designed to handicap different classes, in addition of doing crappy job of handicapping anything at all.

On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 10:55:31 PM UTC-8, krasw wrote:
What's really wrong with OLC is that they do not separate pure glider performance from motorglider flights, and that they use DAeC handicaps that are not designed to handicap different classes, in addition of doing crappy job of handicapping anything at all.

They should also separate flights with ground crew and those without.

On Sunday, 29 January 2017 19:02:40 UTC+2, jfitch wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 10:55:31 PM UTC-8, krasw wrote:
What's really wrong with OLC is that they do not separate pure glider performance from motorglider flights, and that they use DAeC handicaps that are not designed to handicap different classes, in addition of doing crappy job of handicapping anything at all.

They should also separate flights with ground crew and those without.

Why is that? You think flying motorglider/sustainer compares to being 200km from home in pure glider at 6 o'clock?

On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 9:53:15 AM UTC-8, krasw wrote:
On Sunday, 29 January 2017 19:02:40 UTC+2, jfitch wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 10:55:31 PM UTC-8, krasw wrote:
What's really wrong with OLC is that they do not separate pure glider performance from motorglider flights, and that they use DAeC handicaps that are not designed to handicap different classes, in addition of doing crappy job of handicapping anything at all.

They should also separate flights with ground crew and those without.

Why is that? You think flying motorglider/sustainer compares to being 200km from home in pure glider at 6 o'clock?

Do you think being 200 km from home at 6 o'clock with no retrieve crew compares to being there with a full crew in chase?

A motorglider flown responsibly has only two advantages over a pure glider, both conveniences and neither a performance advantage: 1) No need to wait for your turn for the tow plane, and 2) no need to enlist a chase crew for flights with the possibility of a landout. Against these is the very real and substantial performance handicap of not being able to vary wing loading as much or at all.

Sorry to have to hijack the thread to rehash the tired old arguments yet again. Hire (or marry and spawn) a chase crew or buy a motorglider and stop whining. I am happy to have OLC lump those two together, separate from those leaving home with a pure glider, naked, if you like.

On Monday, 30 January 2017 02:36:14 UTC+2, jfitch wrote:

Do you think being 200 km from home at 6 o'clock with no retrieve crew compares to being there with a full crew in chase?

A motorglider flown responsibly has only two advantages over a pure glider, both conveniences and neither a performance advantage: 1) No need to wait for your turn for the tow plane, and 2) no need to enlist a chase crew for flights with the possibility of a landout. Against these is the very real and substantial performance handicap of not being able to vary wing loading as much or at all.

Sorry to have to hijack the thread to rehash the tired old arguments yet again. Hire (or marry and spawn) a chase crew or buy a motorglider and stop whining. I am happy to have OLC lump those two together, separate from those leaving home with a pure glider, naked, if you like.

I do not have crew ready, I just call airfield and hope for some fellow pilot to retrieve me as everyone else does here. Our country's gliding history tells that no glider has ever been left to outlanding field, so odds are in my favour.

Flying glider with engine means that you can skip all the hassle and pain included in outlanding, crew chasing or not. That makes it childs play to push for extra 100 km at evening. Everyone knows and understands this. 100 extra points for OLC for every flight.

Email sent with igc file attached. Thanks for the info.

Dan

On 1/28/2017 6:50 PM, Dan Daly wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 8:47:02 PM UTC-5, Dan Daly wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 7:43:42 PM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
I've been trying for over a year to get the OLC people to fix my login.
I've filled out their help forms too many times to count and they don't
reply and they don't fix the problem. As it stands now, I can not
upload my flights to OLC. When I log in I get a message that states (in
German) that my email address is not valid. But it is valid. And I am
logged on successfully. Then, when I select to upload a flight, I get
the same message stating that my email address is invalid.

Is there anyone listening at OLC? Is there anyone in Europe who can
contact them on my behalf? My email address is
. It is a valid address.

Since I can no longer upload flights, I won't be providing financial
support any more unless it's fixed. Too bad, since I'm currently number
1 at Moriarty and number 14 in the USA.

--
Dan, 5J
Have you done your annual update of your Registration? Go to the list of competitors. Find your name. Go to the right hand side of the form; just past the link to your flights, icon for "contest registration update". Must be done annually. All your info can be correct, but if you don't submit it annually, you aren't valid. Just checking that it is all still correct is not sufficient.
I googled SSA OLC administrator and this was the
at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...ng/xjxyhRaIYLE :
"About

This is the home of the SSA OLC Committee. The OLC Committee handles all OLC related items and coordinates with the FAI and other committees as needed.

The SSA has a Memorandum of Understanding with the OLC that grants us exclusive rights to the OLC in the US. The purpose of this agreement is to provide OLC a point of contact in the US for rules changes, to deal with problems that may arise and to collect money to fund the OLC.

For help with submitting a claim contact us at ."

--
Dan, 5J