My September 2017 visit to GP Gliders

How much will they be asking for the GP 15 JETA self launcher?

WH

Your question: How much will they be asking for the GP 15 JETA self launcher?

My answer: I may be the wrong person to answer, but I can tell you several facts about my purchase five months ago. The base price for the JETA was 93,900 USD.

This included the standard Galaxy BRS rescue system and the 25KW Rotex electric motor with MGM COMPRO speed controller. My trailer's base price was 14,900 USD. The trailer was optional; I heard from a fellow USA customer that he chose to go Cobra.

There are many options on both the glider and the trailer. I wanted to discuss avionics with them but now understand that it is too early to choose. My guess is that by the time I get to include the options, my JETA's price will be around 130,000 USD, or more (it will be fabric seats for me instead of leather) between now and then, there will likely be many changes to the options list. For example, the factory is trying to decide which way to go with the tail wheel: fixed, retractable, and/or steerable.

And what I really like is that the Technical Consultant wants maximum speed..

On YouTube you can google GP Gliders. As a future owner, my favorite video is the one with Sebastian Kawa talking about the GP-14 just before the 2017 WGC. Recognizing that he could win, I placed the order before the contest. And, he won.

Raul Boerner

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 3:29:13 PM UTC-7, wrote:
Your question: How much will they be asking for the GP 15 JETA self launcher?

My answer: I may be the wrong person to answer, but I can tell you several facts about my purchase five months ago. The base price for the JETA was 93,900 USD.

This included the standard Galaxy BRS rescue system and the 25KW Rotex electric motor with MGM COMPRO speed controller. My trailer's base price was 14,900 USD. The trailer was optional; I heard from a fellow USA customer that he chose to go Cobra.

There are many options on both the glider and the trailer. I wanted to discuss avionics with them but now understand that it is too early to choose. My guess is that by the time I get to include the options, my JETA's price will be around 130,000 USD, or more (it will be fabric seats for me instead of leather) between now and then, there will likely be many changes to the options list. For example, the factory is trying to decide which way to go with the tail wheel: fixed, retractable, and/or steerable.

And what I really like is that the Technical Consultant wants maximum speed.

On YouTube you can google GP Gliders. As a future owner, my favorite video is the one with Sebastian Kawa talking about the GP-14 just before the 2017 WGC. Recognizing that he could win, I placed the order before the contest. And, he won.

Raul Boerner

On the tailwheel thing: a steerable tailwheel is the best thing on a glider since sliced bread and flush toilets. Any glider, not just a self launcher..

Will the GP 14 Velo actually be legal to fly in FAI13.5m class in future?

Heard the GP14 and Lak's had to take out the battery's so could meet
35kg/m2 wing loading limit. So if FAI insist on FES for self launch and
35kg/m2 in 13.5 m class they are going to have a small pool of small
pilots who can compete in one legally.

Sorry having seen the GP15 at Aero not impressed - like the V3, and
SZD-56-2 they are built for the 'smaller guy'. I'll buy Schleichers or
Jonkers who design for the larger person, and still seem to have the
performance. FAI should outlaw this silly'small cockpit' practice.

On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 5:30:06 PM UTC, Paul T wrote:
Will the GP 14 Velo actually be legal to fly in FAI13.5m class in future?

Heard the GP14 and Lak's had to take out the battery's so could meet
35kg/m2 wing loading limit. So if FAI insist on FES for self launch and
35kg/m2 in 13.5 m class they are going to have a small pool of small
pilots who can compete in one legally.

Sorry having seen the GP15 at Aero not impressed - like the V3, and
SZD-56-2 they are built for the 'smaller guy'. I'll buy Schleichers or
Jonkers who design for the larger person, and still seem to have the
performance. FAI should outlaw this silly'small cockpit' practice.

The large ("Performance") cockpit mock-up for the V3 at Aero was too small for you?? The V3, the GP 14 and the GP 15 will all come with 2 cockpit sizes - eventually.

At 21:55 02 November 2017, wrote:
On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 5:30:06 PM UTC, Paul T wrote:
Will the GP 14 Velo actually be legal to fly in FAI13.5m class in
future?

Heard the GP14 and Lak's had to take out the battery's so could
meet
35kg/m2 wing loading limit. So if FAI insist on FES for self
launch and
35kg/m2 in 13.5 m class they are going to have a small pool of
small
pilots who can compete in one legally.

Sorry having seen the GP15 at Aero not impressed - like the V3,
and
SZD-56-2 they are built for the 'smaller guy'. I'll buy Schleichers
or
Jonkers who design for the larger person, and still seem to have
the
performance. FAI should outlaw this silly'small cockpit' practice.

The large ("Performance") cockpit mock-up for the V3 at Aero was
too small
for you?? The V3, the GP 14 and the GP 15 will all come with 2
cockpit
sizes - eventually.


Well if the GP14 doesn't meet FAI requirements for the FAI 13.5 m
class with its small cockpit why bother?

Why bother with this craziness of two cockpit sizes to give a small
performance advantage to the jockies and stick insects amongst us?
FAI should mandate a minimum cockpit size. I doubt the V3 large
cockpit will have the performance of the V3 small cockpit - and we
will see people squeezing into the small cockpit for the performance
advantage - yet i bet the JS3 and ASG33 will beat both.

What is the ASG 33 going to be?