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Old February 24th 18, 01:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Jonathan St. Cloud
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I am a multi-engine instrument rated pilot and the only time I have done misses is during a missed instrument approach.

On Saturday, February 24, 2018 at 12:52:46 AM UTC-8, Bruce Hoult wrote:
On Saturday, February 24, 2018 at 8:08:29 AM UTC+3, Tom wrote:
Oh, I forgot - there is a good argument that a low pass is not legal. That whole minimum altitude over "a congested area but “not for the purpose of takeoff or landing.” Take a look at 91.119, make your call eyes wide open. Sorry to take all the fun out of it. I know - there's many rationalizations, justifications and arguments. Not trying to pick a fight - just pointing out some issues with the practice of this maneuver.


Power pilots deliberately practice "missed approach" with no intention of landing on the first pass all the time.


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Old February 24th 18, 04:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Saturday, February 24, 2018 at 4:42:09 PM UTC+3, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
I am a multi-engine instrument rated pilot and the only time I have done misses is during a missed instrument approach.

On Saturday, February 24, 2018 at 12:52:46 AM UTC-8, Bruce Hoult wrote:
On Saturday, February 24, 2018 at 8:08:29 AM UTC+3, Tom wrote:
Oh, I forgot - there is a good argument that a low pass is not legal. That whole minimum altitude over "a congested area but “not for the purpose of takeoff or landing.” Take a look at 91.119, make your call eyes wide open. Sorry to take all the fun out of it. I know - there's many rationalizations, justifications and arguments. Not trying to pick a fight - just pointing out some issues with the practice of this maneuver.


Power pilots deliberately practice "missed approach" with no intention of landing on the first pass all the time.


How many touch-and-goes?

I don't see much difference between them in terms of an intention to land.
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Old February 24th 18, 06:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Jonathan St. Cloud
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On Saturday, February 24, 2018 at 8:19:04 AM UTC-8, Bruce Hoult wrote:
How many touch-and-goes?

I don't see much difference between them in terms of an intention to land..


Many many, in helicopters and airplanes. But a touch-n-go is not a missed. As for the intention to land you are correct. Although on more than one occasion, on a touch-n-go I have been asked to make it a full stop, kind of late in the landing phase. The worst (while off subject) was being asked to abort a takeoff at rotation in a CE 340, I asked if I was on fire, tower said no, and I aborted takeoff anyway, barely got it stopped. Turns out they wanted to change my IFR clearance for a vastly different, non preferred route. When they said I was not on fire, I should have continued T/O.
 




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