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I think it's been pretty well established that the vast majority of
accidents are the result of pilot error.Â* A few examples: Weather did not cause that accident; the pilot's decision to take off into it or continue into it was the real cause. That stall/spin was not the cause of the pilot's death, it was his poor manipulation of the controls and his inability to recover from the results of his actions that caused the stall/spin that killed him. Mechanical failure was not the cause of that accident, it was the pilot's decision to fly too close or into that thunder storm that caused the in flight breakup. I could go on but I won't.Â* Folks are simply too quick to place blame anywhere but on themselves when the stuff hits the fan.Â* I won't likely be crashing my Stemme due to flying up a box canyon under a decaying cumulus (big down draft).Â* It's my firm belief that it was not the weather that killed Bob Saunders, but his decision to fly his aircraft into a situation from which there was little prospect of recovery. On 10/1/2018 5:05 PM, Steve Koerner wrote: On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 2:38:26 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote: Is it April 1st already? There is no way a camera will be in my cockpit, car, home, bathroom, you name it, without my consent.Â* And I don't care what "safety" terms you couch it in.Â* That's simply idiotic. You're have the absolutely right to give up your privacy, but not mine. Dan, I'm a bit of a privacy freak too. Yet, I'm only talking about giving up my privacy when I have a reportable accident. Consider that it's already in the natural working of our society that we give up a whole lot of privacy when we have a serious accident. And as you weigh such things, please consider your overall personal cost to benefit. We really need to start getting to the bottom of all these damn accidents. You may be the very person that has the next Stemme accident because it was never actually determined why Glider Bob crashed his Stemme. It just might have been a mechanical problem or a controllability problem that could have been determined had a video been available. -- Dan, 5J |
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Dan Marotta wrote on 10/2/2018 8:17 AM:
I think it's been pretty well established that the vast majority of accidents are the result of pilot error.* A few examples: Weather did not cause that accident; the pilot's decision to take off into it or continue into it was the real cause. That stall/spin was not the cause of the pilot's death, it was his poor manipulation of the controls and his inability to recover from the results of his actions that caused the stall/spin that killed him. Mechanical failure was not the cause of that accident, it was the pilot's decision to fly too close or into that thunder storm that caused the in flight breakup. I could go on but I won't.* Folks are simply too quick to place blame anywhere but on themselves when the stuff hits the fan.* I won't likely be crashing my Stemme due to flying up a box canyon under a decaying cumulus (big down draft).* It's my firm belief that it was not the weather that killed Bob Saunders, but his decision to fly his aircraft into a situation from which there was little prospect of recovery. "Vast majority" - does that apply to glider accidents? We can all think of accidents where the investigators could not definitely select the cause of the accident. For example, how does one determine what caused the mishandling - a medical event, poor training, panic, dehydration, glasses slipping in turbulence, suicide? Here's an example: a friend had his ailerons partially jam in flight, but he was able to unjam them, and land normally. Eventually, the cause was determined to be a small bit of excess epoxy that squeezed out during the joining of the wing halves, broke loose at some point over the years, and worked it's way to the aileron circuit during rigging or turbulence. You'd never find a cause like that after an accident, but a camera on the pilot might show him struggling with the stick. The camera isn't there to give the pilot an excuse (if you are right, it will do just the opposite), it's to help the living sort out what really happened. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) - "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1 - "Transponders in Sailplanes - Dec 2014a" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm http://soaringsafety.org/prevention/...anes-2014A.pdf |
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