Why nitrogen?

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| Doubt it. Would you ever feel better if you were maxie?
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| Bertie

Maxie feel fine.

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| "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| Aww, and now you cuttin and pasting your replies..
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| Bwawahwhhahwhahwhahwhahhwhahwhahwhahwhahwhhahwhahh wha!
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| Bertie
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| Learn to read.
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| I know how. Read many many books.
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| I didn't cut and paste anything. Just your head rattling
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| Yeh, OK illiterate boi.
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| Bertie
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| You're a cross posting dumb ass.
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| Snort!
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| bertie

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| Learn to read...
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| Bertie
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| Why you can't.
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| And you might learn to write.
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| Bertie
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| Why you can't.
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| Yeh. You really don't realise what you're saying here, do you,
| illiterate boi?
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| Bertie
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| Why you don't?
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| And there it is again..
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| Good thing there's usually a picture on the mens room door or
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| Zaaaaaaapppp!
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| Bertie
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| Why not you do.
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| And this my good friends, is how you keep a moron busy for 30
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| aww, give me some credit Maxine. It's been months now.
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| bertie
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| You're a cross posting dumb ass.
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| Oh no! You're wearing me down!
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| Stoooooop!
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| So, the O2 fueled an already existing fire or caused it?
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| I suspect that pumping the oxygen into the system somehow
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| the fi it probably is a new definition for the term "hot
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| Mm, nice.
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| You heard about this?
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| http://www.gadling.com/2007/12/16/qu...tenance-fills-
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| ks- with-nitrogen/
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| Sounds worse than it was, but still....
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| Bertie
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| It appears that they were lucky and the oxygen was'nt needed; but
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| does remind me of some of the speculation surrunding the Paine
| Stewart
| case. Two hypotheses around my local airport were that 1) the
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| was inadvertantly filled with nitrogen or 2) that someone misread
| the
| labeling on the regulator on/off handle--which is
| counterintuitively
| labeled with "on" or "off" and arrows pointing which direction to
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| the knob for the desired result. I don't recall whether the case
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| ever fully resolved; but a lot of pilots found a couple of areas
| worthy of their maximum vigilance!
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| Moe likely was they passed out before they even realised they were
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| trouble on that one. More easily done than I'd certainly expect.
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| Bertie
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| That was also suggested, and could well be the real answer.
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| Doesn't really matter. It's done and the only thing that matters is
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| all the possibilities are looked at and equipment and training are
| geared towards avoiding a repetition of the accident. Easier said
| than
| done.
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| Bertie
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| You're a cross posting dumb ass.
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| Guess again fjukkktard.
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| Bertie

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| "JGalban via AviationKB.com" u32749@uwe wrote in message
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| Peter Dohm wrote:
| The only difference that would make nitrogen seen really
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| to me would be in the case of an aircraft which is kept hangared
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| seldom operated. Then, if the tire threads last a number of
| years,
| and the tires are sheltered from UV radiation, the inert nature
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| the nitrogen could be usefull.
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| In theory, perhaps. In practice, tires oxidize from the outside
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| the inside. I've noticed that every time I've bought expensive,
| long-life tires, they have to be chucked because the sidewalls
| are
| rotting, even though
| the tread is still good. It's not just air, but pollutants
| (particularly in
| the cities). Ozone, a common urban pollutant, is particularly
| bad
| for tires.
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| John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)
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| Ordinarily, I would just let this slide; but since the greenies
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| decided that CO2 (which is nature's means of recycling oxygen) and
| O3
| (which is nature's cleanser of the atmosphere) are "pollutants"
| according to the strange reasoning of their adled brains,
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| Here is an explanation for you.
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| If you find it too difficult to understand I'll have a look around
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| the Litle Golden Book of Wonder version for you.
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| http://earthguide.ucsd.edu/globalcha...arming/03.html
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| Bertie
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| You are too kind!
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| BTW, it did make a good case for the expansion of nuclear power--
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| No, it didn't.
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| Maybe if I find something with pictures for you.
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| You're a cross posting dumb ass.
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| Shooting for another AUP violation fjukkkwit?
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| Bertie''

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| Need to see the aging data on rubber kept in air versus nitrogen.
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| I've seen it at work, fwiw. Some difference.
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| But, for car tires, I would say there is more hype than benefit.
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| Used to put it in the tires of my light plane, mostly because it was
| free.
| I flew off grass and reckoned they'd rot before I wore them out
| anyway, so I might as well get the most bang for the buck out of the
| tires.
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| Bertie
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| You're a cross posting dumb ass.
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| Snort!
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| In the case of light plane tires, I agree with you that really
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| air should work well enough to make the issue trivial. But, if
| you need nitrogen for any other reason, it is the cheapest thing
| that I know of in an L bottle or larger and using it in the tires
| may be essentially free--because you may have to pay rental on
| the
| tanks if they are not refilled at a prescribed interval.
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| My daughter is a Crew Chief on a C-130 Herc and said that Nitrogen
| is used in the struts.
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| Your daughter smokes cigars?
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| Bertie
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| You're a dumb ass.
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| Nope.
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| Bertie
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| You're a cross posting dumb ass.
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| Please stop! You're hurting meeeeeee!
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| Bwahwhahwhahwhahwhhahwh!
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| The thread on brakes raised a question from the past- why nitrogen
| in the tires of big jets and heavies? Air is around 78% nitrogen
| anyway, and the coefficient of expansion of the remaining 20%
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| oxygen can't make that much difference in volume.
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| Why not just use dry air? I couldn't imagine that dry air or dry
| nitrogen could make that much difference in corrosion, either.
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| I seem to recall someone giving me the rationale for this a long
| time ago, but also seem to remember thinking it didn't make that
| much sense at the time.
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| Well, the greasemonkies say it preserves the rubber. Having said
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| we go
| through them pretty quick and even considering retreads there
| wouldn't be years of exposure or anything..
| Wheel fires may be another good reason...
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| bertie
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| Right, they are called Napoleon tires. You heard of "Napoleon Blown
| Apart" haven't you. :-)
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| groan!
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| A guy i used to work with witnessed the aftermath of someone trying
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| fill a 707 nosewheel wiht an incorrect type reduction on the bottle.
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| guy was pretty much vaporised. My friend spent months as a witness in
| the subsequent lawsuit.
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| Bertie
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| You're a cross posting dumb ass.
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| And you're a fjukktard wannbe just about anythign.
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Give'm hell, Squirty ****drip.

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I love the radical cross posts. Shows your lever of desperation.

Calling all kooks, calling all kooks. I'm getting my ass kicked, I need back
up!

Mick:

Not to change the subject, but why do you think nitrogen is better than dry
air for tires and struts?