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DG-101 - increase performance/sealing/winglets(?)



 
 
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Old July 14th 19, 06:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Nick Kennedy[_3_]
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Default DG-101 - increase performance/sealing/winglets(?)

Senna
I'd go with the sealing and make sure the canopy is sealed too.
I would not pay for winglets for that ship.
If you need more go
Look for a ASW 20 or -27 or LS3 with a functioning ballast system
Enjoy your ship for what its worth today
And as Hank said don't try to fly too fast, do less climbing instead, that's some great advice right there.
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Old July 14th 19, 07:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Senna Van den Bosch
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Op zondag 14 juli 2019 19:03:17 UTC+2 schreef Nick Kennedy:
Senna
I'd go with the sealing and make sure the canopy is sealed too.
I would not pay for winglets for that ship.
If you need more go
Look for a ASW 20 or -27 or LS3 with a functioning ballast system
Enjoy your ship for what its worth today
And as Hank said don't try to fly too fast, do less climbing instead, that's some great advice right there.


Hmm good point.
My maximum speed I usually sustain is 120-130, I do higher if I'm under a street and too high. Higher than 150 feels like going straight down though. Climbs in Belgium average between 1 to 2 m/s with some good spots up to 3 m/s, so not pushing it too far.

Any idea what sealing for canopy works well? There's so much choice. This is where I usually order my gliding needs: http://glider-equipment.nl/catalog/i...alings-c-82_86
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Old July 14th 19, 09:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default DG-101 - increase performance/sealing/winglets(?)

Something like THIS
https://www.lowes.com/pd/m-d-17-ft-x-3-8-in-white-window-seal-rubber-window-weatherstrip/1096091?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-hdw-_-google-_-lia-_-145-_-weatherstripsoftgoods-_-1096091-_-0&kpid&store_code=1543&k_clickID=go_1737082938_719 71988350_338442687748_pla-444551884491_c_9030437&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpavpBRDQARIsA PfTwiyWEoY_gTt4gRH1wbmh1U7oNqRnk5OepfTVP6rh0DKwCw_ tVJWDGI8aAuLoEALw_wcB
works really well.Â* My friend and I sealed his ASW-27 with it and says
the difference was remarkable.Â* Surely you can find similar in Belgium.

On 7/14/2019 12:37 PM, Senna Van den Bosch wrote:
Op zondag 14 juli 2019 19:03:17 UTC+2 schreef Nick Kennedy:
Senna
I'd go with the sealing and make sure the canopy is sealed too.
I would not pay for winglets for that ship.
If you need more go
Look for a ASW 20 or -27 or LS3 with a functioning ballast system
Enjoy your ship for what its worth today
And as Hank said don't try to fly too fast, do less climbing instead, that's some great advice right there.

Hmm good point.
My maximum speed I usually sustain is 120-130, I do higher if I'm under a street and too high. Higher than 150 feels like going straight down though. Climbs in Belgium average between 1 to 2 m/s with some good spots up to 3 m/s, so not pushing it too far.

Any idea what sealing for canopy works well? There's so much choice. This is where I usually order my gliding needs: http://glider-equipment.nl/catalog/i...alings-c-82_86


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Old July 15th 19, 12:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Matt McBee
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Default DG-101 - increase performance/sealing/winglets(?)

Dan, did you apply that to the canopy side or the glider side?

Matt
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Old July 15th 19, 01:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Monday, 15 July 2019 09:02:10 UTC+10, Matt McBee wrote:
Dan, did you apply that to the canopy side or the glider side?

Matt


Canopy side. Most canopies have a concave structure that sits over the lip on the cockpit side. Easier to run this stuff around the concave portion since it won't move then.
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Old July 15th 19, 01:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default DG-101 - increase performance/sealing/winglets(?)

I've never tuned a glider, but before I bought my glider I read all of Dick Johnson's test flight reviews. As others have said sealing the control surfaces is where Dick saw some of the biggest returns, but he also would seal the wing roots around the control rods to prevent the (relatively) high pressure air in the fuselage from venting out through the top of the spoiler box and push rod exits. I've seen people do this with cones made of Ceconite and heard of large balloons being cut down and used as well.
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Old July 15th 19, 04:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Good point!Â* My friend's '27 as a very large area along the fuselage
side which is perfect for applying sealing tape.Â* My LS-6, mentioned
above, had a deep groove in the canopy, perfect for the silicone treatment.

On 7/15/2019 6:09 AM, Justin Couch wrote:
On Monday, 15 July 2019 09:02:10 UTC+10, Matt McBee wrote:
Dan, did you apply that to the canopy side or the glider side?

Matt

Canopy side. Most canopies have a concave structure that sits over the lip on the cockpit side. Easier to run this stuff around the concave portion since it won't move then.


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Old July 15th 19, 03:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default DG-101 - increase performance/sealing/winglets(?)

The glider side.

Twenty-five years ago I sealed the canopy of my LS-6a by wrapping the
fuselage side with cellophane and waxed paper, held down with masking
tape, and then shot a bead of clear silicone sealant along the canopy
sealing surface.Â* Then I locked the canopy down and went away for 24
hours.Â* Upon returning I trimmed the squeeze out inside and out with a
razor blade.

It was unbelievably quiet inside!Â* A minor problem was that, on really
hot days, the silicone expanded enough that locking the canopy was
noticeably stiffer.Â* Still not a problem given the benefit.Â* I imagine
that in Belgium, there aren't that many days hot enough to do that.

On 7/14/2019 5:02 PM, Matt McBee wrote:
Dan, did you apply that to the canopy side or the glider side?

Matt


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