What can I log as XC time?

Bob wrote:

Newps wrote:


Don't make this more difficult than it has to be. It doesn't matter
where you live, where the plane is kept, where you get gas. If you take
off and then at some point during the flight land at a point that is
more than 50 miles away that is a cross country.


You're trying to make it simple, but then you say "if you
take off" and then say "at some point during the flight" but
you don't tell me what you think a "flight" is or a "take
off."

You're kidding right? A flight is anything you want it to be. And
you're not seriously asking what a takeoff might be are you Mr. Clinton?

Newps wrote:

You're kidding right? A flight is anything you want it to be. And
you're not seriously asking what a takeoff might be are you Mr. Clinton?

I knew I'd get an answer like this when I wrote it. I was
emphasizing how difficult it is to figure out what a
regulation means and trying to pin you down.

The point of my question was to ask what *you* (and others
here) think it means and what you think the *FAA* thinks it
means. Telling me "A flight is anything you want it to be"
implies that I can log almost everything I've ever flown as
XC time during one long "flight." I don't think the FAA
would agree regardless of my personal opinion, and their
opinion has more weight than mine does. Even if I think it
was all one long flight, I don't think a DPE will. There
must be some guidelines on this, and that's what I was
trying to get to.

Bob wrote in
:

Newps wrote:

You're kidding right? A flight is anything you want it to be. And
you're not seriously asking what a takeoff might be are you Mr.
Clinton?

I knew I'd get an answer like this when I wrote it. I was
emphasizing how difficult it is to figure out what a
regulation means and trying to pin you down.

The point of my question was to ask what *you* (and others
here) think it means and what you think the *FAA* thinks it
means. Telling me "A flight is anything you want it to be"
implies that I can log almost everything I've ever flown as
XC time during one long "flight." I don't think the FAA
would agree regardless of my personal opinion, and their
opinion has more weight than mine does. Even if I think it
was all one long flight, I don't think a DPE will. There
must be some guidelines on this, and that's what I was
trying to get to.





I personally would not log a flight, nor allow my student to log a
flight as xc, if we did not land at an airport farther than 50NM from
our home base without stopping at an intermediate point, ie., landing
every 25 miles does not count as xc, and flying a 50NM leg within a 25NM
radius of our home airport does not count as xc. I know this is not what
the regs say, but I hold myself and my students to a higher standard. I
also believe this was the intent of the regs, even though the exact
wording leaves room for interpretation.



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When Rutan did the around the world with no refueling I wonder if he logged
it as XC? Makes you wonder....

Gig Giacona wrote:
When Rutan did the around the world with no refueling I wonder if he logged
it as XC? Makes you wonder....


216.1 hour local flight. 1 landing, full stop. :-)

[Burt Rutan:] 216.1 hour local flight. 1 landing, full stop. :-)

Unless he's an ATP or military. Then it's XC.

Jose

"Jose" wrote in message
om...
[Burt Rutan:] 216.1 hour local flight. 1 landing, full stop. :-)

Unless he's an ATP or military. Then it's XC.

Even ATPs need to land at a different airport other than the original point
of departure for it to count as a XC. You're getting confused by the lack
of a distance requirement for the required aeronautical experience to
*obtain* the ATP certificate.

"Gig Giacona" wrote in
:

When Rutan did the around the world with no refueling I wonder if he
logged it as XC? Makes you wonder....



Why would Rutan care about logging xc? Is he working towards a certificate
or rating?


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