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Old November 1st 06, 04:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Ron Wanttaja
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On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:35:22 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:

What's the proper procedure to execute a forward slip, how should the
aircraft be expected to react when it is performed, and what are the
main uses of the forward slip?


Ideally, the plane should drop like a shotgunned duck. The velocity vector
remains pointed in the same direction, but the aircraft is maneuvered so that it
is no longer pointed in the direction of the relative wind. Hence...lots more
drag, which means the descent angle can be steeper.

The main use is that it allows you to maintain a reserve of altitude that you
can get rid of quickly once making the runway is assured. Or, if landing on a
runway with a physical barrier at the approach end (a line of trees, for
instance), one can increase the descent rate once clear of the trees and land
earlier on the runway.

And why is it called a _forward_ slip?


Because the airplane, while in a turning attitude, does not turn...it travels in
the same direction it was before the maneuver started.

Here's a couple of videos. This one is shot from an axle-mounted camera on my
airplane:

http://www.bowersflybaby.com/slip.wmv

The second one is video taken from the ground of me performing the same manu
ever on a different day:

http://www.bowersflybaby.com/slip2.wmv

Somebody said that MSFS cannot simulate forward slips correctly. What
is missing in the simulation?


The Fly Baby model on MSFS can't, but I always figured that was my fault. :-)

Ron Wanttaja
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Old November 1st 06, 06:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
gatt
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Three basic rules about slipping on final are 1) Don't stall, 2) Don't
stall
and 3) Don't stall.


And how do I avoid stalls while slipping?


Stay a few knots above stall speed and don't make any abrupt control
changes. If you're in a high performance airplane and have to go around or
something, don't throw in full power and torque yourself over.

-c


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Old November 1st 06, 06:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 05:41:53 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:

I meant an impact with terrain.


Don't drink while you simulate. It makes falling out of your chair less
likely.

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Old November 1st 06, 06:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Andrew Gideon
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On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 03:58:05 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:

And what is a snap roll, anyway?


Raw snapper wrapped in rice.

- Andrew

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Old November 1st 06, 07:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Jay Beckman
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"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
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On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 03:58:05 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:

And what is a snap roll, anyway?


Raw snapper wrapped in rice.

- Andrew


Damn, there goes ANOTHER keyboard...

ROFL...

Jay Beckman
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Chandler, AZ


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Old November 1st 06, 08:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Mxsmanic schrieb:

And what is a snap roll, anyway?


It's merkin talk for flick roll.

Stefan
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Old November 1st 06, 08:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Jim Macklin
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It is a spin on the horizontal axis at an accelerated load
factor.



"Stefan" wrote in message
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| Mxsmanic schrieb:
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| And what is a snap roll, anyway?
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| It's merkin talk for flick roll.
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| Stefan


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Old November 1st 06, 09:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Gig 601XL Builder
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wrote in message
oups.com...
Mxsmanic wrote:
What's the proper procedure to execute a forward slip, how should the
aircraft be expected to react when it is performed, and what are the



This might help... http://tinyurl.com/yhd7km

You might want to do it in an emergency descent situation when you find
yourself very near an airfield and are too high to make a normal
approach and you've to suddenly lose a lot of altitude.

Ramapriya
not a pilot, so don't listen to me


Now Ramapriya is a perfect example of a nonpilot that has meshed into the
group. He asked some pretty silly questions when he first started posting
but he has spent some time around here and learned things about flying. You
could really take some pointers from him Manic.


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Old November 1st 06, 10:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mxsmanic
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Andrew Gideon writes:

Don't drink while you simulate.


I don't drink at all.

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Old November 1st 06, 10:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mxsmanic
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Stefan writes:

It's merkin talk for flick roll.


I don't know what a flick roll is, either.

As far as I can determine, a snap roll is simply a roll that occurs
suddenly.

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