About forward slips

Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Now Ramapriya is a perfect example of a nonpilot that has meshed into the
group. He asked some pretty silly questions when he first started posting
but he has spent some time around here and learned things about flying. You
could really take some pointers from him Manic.

I'm not trying to join a boys' club. I'm trying to learn about
aviation.

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Mxsmanic schrieb:

I don't know what a flick roll is, either.

Ask Google and then come back if details remain unclear.

Stefan

Ron Wanttaja writes:

Ideally, the plane should drop like a shotgunned duck.

I've achieved some fairly high descent rates (faster than I could
normally achieve by other means), but not as fast as I've been led to
believe a slip could achieve. The plane keeps wanting to fly. I'll
grant that it's extremely difficult to coordinate the controls with a
twist-throttle rudder control (which is extremely sensitive).

The velocity vector
remains pointed in the same direction, but the aircraft is maneuvered so that it
is no longer pointed in the direction of the relative wind. Hence...lots more
drag, which means the descent angle can be steeper.

I presume that if I do it correctly, then, there should be no change
in the actual direction of motion of the aircraft, but only a change
in its orientation in the air, right? I haven't achieved that thus
far.

Because the airplane, while in a turning attitude, does not turn...it travels in
the same direction it was before the maneuver started.

So if I'm going straight in and I do a forward flip, I should be able
to look off to the left out the window and see the runway approaching
me (or to the right, although that might be harder from the left
seat).

Here's a couple of videos. This one is shot from an axle-mounted camera on my
airplane:

http://www.bowersflybaby.com/slip.wmv

The second one is video taken from the ground of me performing the same manu
ever on a different day:

http://www.bowersflybaby.com/slip2.wmv

Nicely done. I gather that you were actually looking sideways down at
the runway, and not in the direction the axle-mounted camera was
looking?

I've managed to get the aircraft to descend kind of that way, but it's
very hard to keep it stable and aligned with the runway. However, I
notice that even in your case the aircraft moves around a bit.

The Fly Baby model on MSFS can't, but I always figured that was
my fault. :-)

Or you had automatic rudder coordination turned on (it's the default).

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Mxsmanic wrote in
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I'm not trying to join a boys' club. I'm trying to learn about
aviation.

Then look up your questions on the internet, and if you have questions,
then post your question with the reference you looked up.

Then you can say you are trying to learn....

Allen

"Mxsmanic"

Stefan writes:

It's merkin talk for flick roll.

I don't know what a flick roll is, either.

As far as I can determine,

That's telling...

a snap roll is simply a roll that occurs
suddenly.

Then just leave it at that.

m

A Lieberma writes:

Then look up your questions on the internet, and if you have questions,
then post your question with the reference you looked up.

Then you can say you are trying to learn....

I had hoped that this newsgroup would have a high concentration of
people knowledgeable about piloting, but it appears that I may have
been excessively optimistic.

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Recently, Mxsmanic posted:

A Lieberma writes:

Then look up your questions on the internet, and if you have
questions, then post your question with the reference you looked up.

Then you can say you are trying to learn....

I had hoped that this newsgroup would have a high concentration of
people knowledgeable about piloting, but it appears that I may have
been excessively optimistic.

Obviously, this newsgroup does have a high concentration of people
knowledgeable about piloting. That is the main reason that your approach
is so repulsive.

Neil

Mxsmanic wrote:

I had hoped that this newsgroup would have a high concentration of
people knowledgeable about piloting, but it appears that I may have
been excessively optimistic.


Then why do you say stupid **** like this:



There are very few types of weather that will stop a bicycle. A VFR
flight is stopped by a fluffy little cloud.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Andrew Gideon writes:

Don't drink while you simulate.

I don't drink at all.


Maybe you should start.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Now Ramapriya is a perfect example of a nonpilot that has meshed into the
group. He asked some pretty silly questions when he first started posting
but he has spent some time around here and learned things about flying.
You
could really take some pointers from him Manic.

I'm not trying to join a boys' club. I'm trying to learn about
aviation.


And you might if you took the path that Ramapriya has in this group.