About forward slips

T o d d P a t t i s t wrote:
If you pull high G, you can probably get the 90 degree turn
done with wings vertical in 1 to 2 seconds. The whole time
you are "falling" (or slowing your climb) and this requires
the aircraft to change it's vertical velocity by about 1800
to 3600 ft/min (ignoring drag). Not easy, but barely
possible in an aerobatic aircraft. Then you roll out and
recover.

In the S2B, the maneuver was to snap to a 90 degree bank, pull back on
the stick for a 90 degree turn, then snap back level, and then snap to a
90 degree bank in the other direction... Even if you completely discount
the lift generated by the fuselage while in the 90 degree bank, the
altitude deviation is not extreme... Theoretically, if you did it within
a second, you only lose 16 ft... If you do it within 2 seconds, you lose
64 ft... If you do it within 3 seconds, you'll lose 144 ft... At 2000 ft
and high Gs, you don't really notice a loss of that little... You do
kind of notice being in a spin a 2000 ft though...

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in news:12ki8rlqvdec480
@news.supernews.com:

I don't drink at all.


Maybe you should start.

Can a computer sim a shot of Wild Turkey?

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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I've achieved some fairly high descent rates (faster than I could
normally achieve by other means), but not as fast as I've been led to
believe a slip could achieve. The plane keeps wanting to fly.

As long as their is unbroken airflow over the wings, there will be lift.
If there's one single indicator of the effectiveness of a slip, it's
probably the VSI
(vertical speed indicator, or rate-of-climb indicator.) If it's an extreme
slip, another indicator might be your unnerved passenger contemplating
exiting the airplane before landing, but that's one of those
seat-of-your-pants indicators that should be avoided.

The plane will still keep flying--you want it to. You REALLY don't want
that airflow boundary layer to separate from the wing. But if your normal
rate of descent at a given airspeed and power confuration is, say, 500 fpm,
in a slip the airspeed will be about the same but your rate of descent would
indicate maybe 1000 fpm. (These numbers are just for example and not
reflective of any particular aircraft.)

I presume that if I do it correctly, then, there should be no change
in the actual direction of motion of the aircraft, but only a change
in its orientation in the air, right? I haven't achieved that thus
far.

Correct. In the slip, the airplane will seem to have one wing pointed
forward and tipped down. The pilot will keep the airplane ground track
aligned with the runway, but the nose will actually be a few degrees off of
center.

So if I'm going straight in and I do a forward flip, I should be able
to look off to the left out the window and see the runway approaching
me

Yes. Probably somewhere around 11 o'clock to the nose.

-c

Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Maybe you should start.

I've seen what it does to other people. I think I'll pass. I'm not
into drugs.

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Neil Gould writes:

Obviously, this newsgroup does have a high concentration of people
knowledgeable about piloting.

That is not obvious at all, unfortunately. It has a high
concentration of children overdosed on testosterone, like all of
cyberspace, but knowledgeable people are thin on the ground.

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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

And you might if you took the path that Ramapriya has in this group.

I don't do initiations or hazings.

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Mxsmanic wrote in
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That is not obvious at all, unfortunately. It has a high
concentration of children overdosed on testosterone,

As usual WRONG AGAIN. Do your research. Dayem, I will even help you this
time.

http://www.google.com/search?
hl=en&lr=&defl=en&q=define:Children&sa=X&oi=glossa ry_definition&ct=title

Allen

A Lieberma wrote in
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http://www.google.com/search?
hl=en&lr=&defl=en&q=define:Children&sa=X&oi=glossa ry_definition&ct=titl
e

Link should be......

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ition&ct=title

I have had the good sense to block messages from certain posters from
France. However, a snap roll is obviously more than a roll that occurs
suddenly. A few minutes with a search engine would prove more beneficial
than wasting a lot of bandwidth on the newsgroup.

On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:14:48 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:

A Lieberma writes:

Then look up your questions on the internet, and if you have questions,
then post your question with the reference you looked up.

Then you can say you are trying to learn....

I had hoped that this newsgroup would have a high concentration of
people knowledgeable about piloting, but it appears that I may have
been excessively optimistic.


You were excessively optimistic if you thought nobody would be bothered
by you, however you do get plenty of good responses and you know it. I
don't want to hear YOUR whining on top of the others!




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