Why nitrogen?

"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message
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on 9/16/2008 8:39 PM Peter Dohm said the following:
"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message
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on 9/16/2008 6:31 PM Peter Dohm said the following:
Ordinarily, I would just let this slide; but since the greenies have
decided that CO2 (which is nature's means of recycling oxygen) and O3
(which is nature's cleanser of the atmosphere) are "pollutants"
according to the strange reasoning of their adled brains, I feel
compelled to point out that I suggested that the aircraft would be
sheltered in a hangar--which would protect the outsides of the tires
from part of the damage. They still won't last until the treads wear
out, but it will help.
You're suggesting hangars are so airtight that CO2 and O3 are somehow
sealed away from the tires inside? The effect of O3 on tires is not
through increased UV or global warming. It's direct chemical interaction
with the polymer chains in the rubber compounds.

Not at all. However, UV is supposedly a player in rubber deterioration.

Via a separate mechanism. That's why tires are made and/or treated with
ozone protection additives.

There is not much you can do about O3, you'll just have to live with it.

Bull****. Reduce the amount of hydrocarbon and nitrogen oxides emitted by
various sources and you reduce the amount of low-level ozone produced by
their interactions. I'm not talking about the ozone layer here. I mean the
air we're breathing at our level of the atmosphere.

....and YOU are going to accomplish all of that for the good of your tires in
YOUR hangar...

WOW! I'm VERY impressed.

"Peter Dohm" wrote in message
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"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message
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on 9/16/2008 8:39 PM Peter Dohm said the following:
"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message
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on 9/16/2008 6:31 PM Peter Dohm said the following:
Ordinarily, I would just let this slide; but since the greenies have
decided that CO2 (which is nature's means of recycling oxygen) and O3
(which is nature's cleanser of the atmosphere) are "pollutants"
according to the strange reasoning of their adled brains, I feel
compelled to point out that I suggested that the aircraft would be
sheltered in a hangar--which would protect the outsides of the tires
from part of the damage. They still won't last until the treads wear
out, but it will help.
You're suggesting hangars are so airtight that CO2 and O3 are somehow
sealed away from the tires inside? The effect of O3 on tires is not
through increased UV or global warming. It's direct chemical
interaction with the polymer chains in the rubber compounds.

Not at all. However, UV is supposedly a player in rubber deterioration.

Via a separate mechanism. That's why tires are made and/or treated with
ozone protection additives.

There is not much you can do about O3, you'll just have to live with it.

Bull****. Reduce the amount of hydrocarbon and nitrogen oxides emitted by
various sources and you reduce the amount of low-level ozone produced by
their interactions. I'm not talking about the ozone layer here. I mean
the air we're breathing at our level of the atmosphere.

...and YOU are going to accomplish all of that for the good of your tires
in YOUR hangar...

WOW! I'm VERY impressed.



Yeah! Me too!

"Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in :


"Peter Dohm" wrote in message
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"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message
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on 9/16/2008 8:39 PM Peter Dohm said the following:
"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message
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on 9/16/2008 6:31 PM Peter Dohm said the following:
Ordinarily, I would just let this slide; but since the greenies
have decided that CO2 (which is nature's means of recycling
oxygen) and O3 (which is nature's cleanser of the atmosphere) are
"pollutants" according to the strange reasoning of their adled
brains, I feel compelled to point out that I suggested that the
aircraft would be sheltered in a hangar--which would protect the
outsides of the tires from part of the damage. They still won't
last until the treads wear out, but it will help.
You're suggesting hangars are so airtight that CO2 and O3 are
somehow sealed away from the tires inside? The effect of O3 on
tires is not through increased UV or global warming. It's direct
chemical interaction with the polymer chains in the rubber
compounds.

Not at all. However, UV is supposedly a player in rubber
deterioration.

Via a separate mechanism. That's why tires are made and/or treated
with ozone protection additives.

There is not much you can do about O3, you'll just have to live
with it.

Bull****. Reduce the amount of hydrocarbon and nitrogen oxides
emitted by various sources and you reduce the amount of low-level
ozone produced by their interactions. I'm not talking about the
ozone layer here. I mean the air we're breathing at our level of the
atmosphere.

...and YOU are going to accomplish all of that for the good of your
tires in YOUR hangar...

WOW! I'm VERY impressed.



Yeah! Me too!


Enough to distract you from the ball of yarn you were chasing around the
floor?


Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in :


"Peter Dohm" wrote in message
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"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message
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on 9/16/2008 8:39 PM Peter Dohm said the following:
"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message
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on 9/16/2008 6:31 PM Peter Dohm said the following:
Ordinarily, I would just let this slide; but since the greenies
have decided that CO2 (which is nature's means of recycling
oxygen) and O3 (which is nature's cleanser of the atmosphere) are
"pollutants" according to the strange reasoning of their adled
brains, I feel compelled to point out that I suggested that the
aircraft would be sheltered in a hangar--which would protect the
outsides of the tires from part of the damage. They still won't
last until the treads wear out, but it will help.
You're suggesting hangars are so airtight that CO2 and O3 are
somehow sealed away from the tires inside? The effect of O3 on
tires is not through increased UV or global warming. It's direct
chemical interaction with the polymer chains in the rubber
compounds.

Not at all. However, UV is supposedly a player in rubber
deterioration.

Via a separate mechanism. That's why tires are made and/or treated
with ozone protection additives.

There is not much you can do about O3, you'll just have to live
with it.

Bull****. Reduce the amount of hydrocarbon and nitrogen oxides
emitted by various sources and you reduce the amount of low-level
ozone produced by their interactions. I'm not talking about the
ozone layer here. I mean the air we're breathing at our level of the
atmosphere.

...and YOU are going to accomplish all of that for the good of your
tires in YOUR hangar...

WOW! I'm VERY impressed.



Yeah! Me too!


Enough to distract you from the ball of yarn you were chasing around the
floor?


Bertie


You're a cross posting dumb ass.

on 9/17/2008 8:58 AM Peter Dohm said the following:
"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message
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on 9/16/2008 8:39 PM Peter Dohm said the following:
"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message
. net...
on 9/16/2008 6:31 PM Peter Dohm said the following:
Ordinarily, I would just let this slide; but since the greenies have
decided that CO2 (which is nature's means of recycling oxygen) and O3
(which is nature's cleanser of the atmosphere) are "pollutants"
according to the strange reasoning of their adled brains, I feel
compelled to point out that I suggested that the aircraft would be
sheltered in a hangar--which would protect the outsides of the tires
from part of the damage. They still won't last until the treads wear
out, but it will help.
You're suggesting hangars are so airtight that CO2 and O3 are somehow
sealed away from the tires inside? The effect of O3 on tires is not
through increased UV or global warming. It's direct chemical interaction
with the polymer chains in the rubber compounds.
Not at all. However, UV is supposedly a player in rubber deterioration.
Via a separate mechanism. That's why tires are made and/or treated with
ozone protection additives.

There is not much you can do about O3, you'll just have to live with it.
Bull****. Reduce the amount of hydrocarbon and nitrogen oxides emitted by
various sources and you reduce the amount of low-level ozone produced by
their interactions. I'm not talking about the ozone layer here. I mean the
air we're breathing at our level of the atmosphere.

...and YOU are going to accomplish all of that for the good of your tires in
YOUR hangar...

WOW! I'm VERY impressed.

Whoosh...