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Be more careful Buttlipps, you forgot to cross post two of them this time.
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![]() "Allen" wrote The Lear does have an emergency pressurization system. When the cabin altitude reaches (I believe) 12,000' there is a valve that opens and puts full, uncooled bleed air into the cabin. There is no mistaking when this happens; it is loud and it is hot. Yeah, I'll bet that is exciting! Let's see, death by altitude blackout, or death by cooking like a lobster. Which would I choose? g Interesting. I didn't know that. I wonder why the Payne Stewart plane (Lear 35) did not have that system activate. Perhaps the sensor that measures cabin altitude was on the fritz. What kind of backup would there be? It would seem reasonable to have separate sensors for normal pressurization operation, and one for the emergency system, and perhaps one for a aural and visual cockpit warning. Do you know how it is set up? Thanks for the information. -- Jim in NC |
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"Morgans" wrote in
: "Allen" wrote The Lear does have an emergency pressurization system. When the cabin altitude reaches (I believe) 12,000' there is a valve that opens and puts full, uncooled bleed air into the cabin. There is no mistaking when this happens; it is loud and it is hot. Yeah, I'll bet that is exciting! Let's see, death by altitude blackout, or death by cooking like a lobster. Which would I choose? g Interesting. I didn't know that. I wonder why the Payne Stewart plane (Lear 35) did not have that system activate. oh brother. Bertie |
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![]() "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... | "Morgans" wrote in | : | | | "Allen" wrote | | The Lear does have an emergency pressurization system. When the | cabin altitude reaches (I believe) 12,000' there is a valve that | opens and puts full, uncooled bleed air into the cabin. There is no | mistaking when this happens; it is loud and it is hot. | | Yeah, I'll bet that is exciting! | | Let's see, death by altitude blackout, or death by cooking like a | lobster. Which would I choose? g | | Interesting. I didn't know that. I wonder why the Payne Stewart | plane (Lear 35) did not have that system activate. | | oh brother. | | | Bertie | |
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![]() "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in : | | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message | .. . | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in news:1USAk.20105$PK.20083 | @newsfe04.iad: | | | | | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message | | .. . | | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in news:sKSAk.19942$PK.3057 | @newsfe04.iad: | | | | | | | | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message | | | .. . | | | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in news:N8RAk.11459$PS3.2852 | | | @newsfe06.iad: | | | | | | | | | | | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message | | | | ... | | | | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in news:ONDAk.13289$rV4.9506 | | | | @newsfe03.iad: | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message | | | | | .. . | | | | | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in news:nkzAk.9129$PS3.3826 | | | | @newsfe06.iad: | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message | | | | | | ... | | | | | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in news:bBgAk.13838 | $Dj1.12866 | | | | | | @newsfe01.iad: | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message | | | | | | ... | | | | | | John Godwin wrote in | | | | | | news:Xns9B1BD7A3321FBAvSvcs@ 208.49.82.60: | | | | | | | | | | | | "Peter Dohm" wrote in | | | | | | : | | | | | | | | | | | | In the case of light plane tires, I agree with you | | that | | | | really | | | | | | dry | | | | | | air should work well enough to make the issue | | trivial. | | | | But, | | | | | if | | | | | | you need nitrogen for any other reason, it is the | | | cheapest | | | | | thing | | | | | | that I know of in an L bottle or larger and using | it | | in | | | the | | | | | tires | | | | | | may be essentially free--because you may have to | pay | | | rental | | | | on | | | | | | the | | | | | | tanks if they are not refilled at a prescribed | | interval. | | | | | | | | | | | | My daughter is a Crew Chief on a C-130 Herc and | said | | that | | | | | Nitrogen | | | | | | is used in the struts. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Your daughter smokes cigars? | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Bertie | | | | | | | | | | | | You're a dumb ass. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Nope. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Bertie | | | | | | | | | | | | You're a cross posting dumb ass. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Please stop! You're hurting meeeeeee! | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Bwahwhahwhahwhahwhhahwh! | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Bertie | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | awww, Maxine is trying some UPA! | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Lame UPA! | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Bertie | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Very lame. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Bertie | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Even lamer! | | | | | | Bertie | | | | | | | | | | And lamer agin | | | | | | Bertie | | | | | | |
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![]() "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in : | | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message | .. . | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in news:XNSAk.20003$PK.13088 | @newsfe04.iad: | | | | | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message | | ... | | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in news:S9RAk.11467$PS3.7878 | | @newsfe06.iad: | | | | | | | | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message | | | .. . | | | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in news:6HFAk.26045$QF5.19074 | | | @newsfe08.iad: | | | | | | | | Xref: news rec.aviation.piloting:619353 | | | | Path: | | | | nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com! | | 69.16.185.11.MISMATCH! | | | | npeer0 | | | | 1.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed- | | | me.highwinds- | | | | me | | | | dia.com!post02.iad.highwinds-media.com!newsfe08.iad.POSTED! | | | 7564ea0f! | | | | not | | | | -for-mail From: "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net | | | | Newsgroups: rec.aviation.piloting | | | | References: | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Subject: Why | | nitrogen? | | | | Lines: 14 | | | | X-Priority: 3 | | | | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal | | | | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 | | | | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 | | | | Message-ID: | | | | NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.13.227.40 | | | | X-Complaints-To: | | | | X-Trace: newsfe08.iad 1221797698 68.13.227.40 (Fri, 19 Sep | 2008 | | | | 04:14:58 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 04:14:58 | UTC | | | | Organization: Cox | | | | Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:14:51 -0500 | | | | | | | | | | | | "Viperdoc" wrote in message | | | | ... | | | | | Mick: | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | It is, you know | | | | | | | | bertie | | | | | w | | |
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![]() "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in : | | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message | .. . | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in : | | | | | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message | | ... | | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in news:K9RAk.11466$PS3.9779 | | @newsfe06.iad: | | | | | | | | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message | | | .. . | | | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in news:s0EAk.13305$rV4.6925 | | | @newsfe03.iad: | | | | | | | | Xref: news rec.aviation.piloting:619347 | | | | Path: | | | | nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com! | | 69.16.185.21.MISMATCH! | | | | npeer0 | | | | 3.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed- | | | me.highwinds- | | | | me | | | | dia.com!post01.iad.highwinds-media.com!newsfe03.iad.POSTED! | | | 7564ea0f! | | | | not | | | | -for-mail From: "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net | | | | Newsgroups: rec.aviation.piloting | | | | References: | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Subject: | Why | | | | nitrogen? Lines: 13 | | | |
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"Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in :
"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... | "Morgans" wrote in | : | | | "Allen" wrote | | The Lear does have an emergency pressurization system. When the | cabin altitude reaches (I believe) 12,000' there is a valve that | opens and puts full, uncooled bleed air into the cabin. There is no | mistaking when this happens; it is loud and it is hot. | | Yeah, I'll bet that is exciting! | | Let's see, death by altitude blackout, or death by cooking like a | lobster. Which would I choose? g | | Interesting. I didn't know that. I wonder why the Payne Stewart | plane (Lear 35) did not have that system activate. | | oh brother. | | | Bertie | Oh fjukkktard. Bertie |
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"Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in :
"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in : | | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message | .. . | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in news:JUSAk.20116$PK.9045 @newsfe04.iad: | | | | | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message | | ... | | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in news:RISAk.19912$PK.15285 | | @newsfe04.iad: | | | | | | | | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in message | | | ... | | | | | | | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message | | | | ... | | | || "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in news:d9RAk.11463$PS3.2888 | | | @newsfe06.iad: | | | || | | | || | | | || "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message | | | || .. . | | | || | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in news:LIDAk.13284$rV4.5522 | | | || @newsfe03.iad: | | | || | | | | || | Xref: news rec.aviation.piloting:619331 | | | || | Path: | | | || | news.glorb.com!npeer01.iad.highwinds-media.com! | | news.highwinds- | | | || | media.com | | | || | !feed-me.highwinds-media.com!post02.iad.highwinds- | media.com! | | | || | newsfe03.ia | | | || | d.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail From: "Mick" @_#`~#@. | ^net | | | || | Newsgroups: rec.aviation.piloting | | | || | References: | | | || | | | | || | | | | || | | | | || | | | | || | | | | || | | | | || | | | | || | gapjoe $ksn | $1 | | | || @aioe.org | | | || | garskj$c4t$1 | | @aioe.org | | | || | | | | || | | | | || | | | | || | | | | || | | | | || | | | | || | | | | || | Z0hAk.14223$Dj1.9558 | | | || @newsfe01.iad | | | || | | | | || | | | | || | Subject: | | | Why | | | || | nitrogen? Lines: 109 | | | || | X-Priority: 3 | | | || | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal | | | || | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 | | | || | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 | | | || | Message-ID: | | | || | NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.13.227.40 | | | || | X-Complaints-To: | | | || | X-Trace: newsfe03.iad 1221789611 68.13.227.40 (Fri, 19 | Sep | | 2008 | | | || | 02:00:11 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 | 02:00:11 | | UTC | | | || | Organization: Cox | | | || | Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:00:03 -0500 | | | || | | | | || | | | | || | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message | | | || | .. . | | | || | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in news:BkzAk.9130 $PS3.8242 | | | || @newsfe06.iad: | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message | | | || | | .. . | | | || | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in news:Z0hAk.14223 | $Dj1.9558 | | | || | | @newsfe01.iad: | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in message | | | || | | ... | | | || | | | | | || | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message | | | || | | news:gas5vn$p43$11 @blackhelicopter.databasix.com... | | | || | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in news:fUgAk.14183 | | $Dj1.8609 | | | || | | @newsfe01.iad: | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message | | | || | | news:gas5h7$p43$4 | @blackhelicopter.databasix.com... | | | || | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in | | | || | | : | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message | | | || | | news:gas4qj$p43$1 | @blackhelicopter.databasix.com... | | | || | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in | | | || | | : | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in | message | | | || | | news:Xns9B1CE6A9AECA3****upropeeh@ | | 208.90.168.18... | | | || | | | | | || | | Learn to read... | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | Bertie | | | || | | | | | || | | Why you can't. | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | And you might learn to write. | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | Bertie | | | || | | | | | || | | Why you can't. | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | Yeh. You really don't realise what you're saying | | here, | | | do | | | || | | you, illiterate boi? | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | Bertie | | | || | | | | | || | | Why you don't? | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | And there it is again.. | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | Good thing there's usually a picture on the mens | room | | | door | | | || or | | | || | | you'd | | | || | | be | | | || | | peeing in the transformer room, eh? | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | Zaaaaaaapppp! | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | Bertie | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | Why not you do. | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | And this my good friends, is how you keep a moron | busy | | for | | | 30 | | | || | | minutes. | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | aww, give me some credit Maxine. It's been months | now. | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | bertie | | | || | | | | | || | | You're a cross posting dumb ass. | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | | | | || | | Oh no! 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