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On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 11:20:42 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 6:51:57 PM UTC-5, Vaughn Simon wrote: On 11/14/2015 5:14 PM, wrote: As researchers continue to work on creating better batteries, the logical solution all along was always the Auxiliary Power Unit for charging. Well yes that will work (assuming an electric drive train with a battery) , ...as long as that APU produces significantly MORE power than the average that you will need at the prop hub. The reason why you would need MORE power is to make up for the losses inherent in the generator, motor, battery, and controller. Also, I forgot to mention that I'm a professional designer and illustrator, formerly with Lockheed- Martin. Within this electric airplane concept which would sustain these very long ranges with an RTG, is a series of conforming "mini-tanks" which encapsulate major electrical components. Holding no more than 5 gallons total, you top them off with liquid nitrogen. This cryogenic sealed system effectively turns your electrical system into a zero-resistance super conductor. Control surfaces are best facilitated with servos and fly by wire software. This may sound a little exotic, but other people have verified the plausibility and science behind it. A home-build isn't out of the question. With generator, super conduction, and fast charge NON-lithium batteries, the range may really be how long you can sit in a seat. --- Here's some other guys design of the same idea, but EDFs (electric ducted fans)are less efficient than propellers. ....superconducting machines have already achieved power densities comparable to turbine engines. To fully enable electric flight however, power densities need to improve even further, which is only possible with all-superconducting machines. We developed design concepts for revolutionary aircraft using superconducting machines for propulsion and showed that with further development in superconducting and cryocooling technologies, all within reach, superconductivity- enabled flight could be a reality... http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Scienc...p?NewsNum=2712 --- |
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Just for clarification here, while it would be nice to
have an RTG (especially since it takes 100 years to run out of charge) obviously for the ordinary man and pilot this would be difficult. Also, adherence to rules is of course, foremost. It is however a do-able concept that doesn't violate the law of energy conservation. That being said, simply replace that component with a hydrogen fuel cell. A little different, but people are doing it and it works for an APU charger. Combined with quick charge batteries, you'll be fine. Lastly I want to give an illustration. If you take a dc light bulb, a 9 volt battery, and say... 50 feet or more of wire and make the connection, you will either see no light, or a faint orange glow. Then if you take that same coil of wire and drop it into a bucket of liquid nitrogen with the 2 ends hanging out, then connect the bulb and battery, it will burn as bright white as the battery touching the bulb itself. This is due to zero resistance and super conductivity. Now, being realistic think of an airplane today with a long wiring harness of several wires. It will be zip tied to the frame and run through grommets at points to prevent sheathing penetration. What if we take that harness and run it through an insulated metal tubing, with leak-proof ends. Imagine an insertion point wherein you can inject liquid nitrogen. You have now just done the same thing as in the above illustration. This is just one example of my design that could be installed in your cryogenic system to achieve super conductivity. Should the liquid nitrogen warm over an extended period... it will harmlessly vaporize, and you'll recharge it as needed. --- |
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On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 6:41:09 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Just for clarification here, while it would be nice to have an RTG (especially since it takes 100 years to run out of charge) obviously for the ordinary man and pilot this would be difficult. Also, adherence to rules is of course, foremost. It is however a do-able concept that doesn't violate the law of energy conservation. That being said, simply replace that component with a hydrogen fuel cell. A little different, but people are doing it and it works for an APU charger. Combined with quick charge batteries, you'll be fine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Uxb8v4ylTU .. . . . . . . "The efficiency of this process is not limited by the thermodynamic constraints of combustion engines and consequently achieves a fuel-to-electricity efficiency two to three times higher than current engine/generator combinations. The fuel cell does not have to be recharged once empty, as hydrogen and oxygen/air are continuously supplied to the fuel cell stack, allowing continuous operation." http://aviationweek.com/commercial-a...pu-replacement --- http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...e1028/abstract |
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